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sofar wrote:

12Me21 wrote:Yeah, that would be good. However, wouldn't it be easier to make another rail to return the minecart to the start?

that would mean rails have to always be circular tracks. In the real world, rails stop, and quite often too.

What if you made an end rail that does what you want it to do. It could make it drop so the vaccuum tube can suck it up.

Don wrote:What if you made an end rail that does what you want it to do. It could make it drop so the vaccuum tube can suck it up.

A stair block at the end of rails already accomplishes just that...

sofar wrote:

Don wrote:What if you made an end rail that does what you want it to do. It could make it drop so the vaccuum tube can suck it up.

A stair block at the end of rails already accomplishes just that...

hmm... the problem with that, is it's kind of a bug, so it might be fixed, which would break any rail system that uses it.

Or make it so that a piston can push the cart off the track. Something to think about.

Why not just make it so the cart will fall off the end of a rail if there isn't anything in the way?
that would be the simplest and easiest to use solution.

but still, I think it would be better to make a system that doesn't require having the cart drop as an item. just have some kind of loop, so the cart can go back to the beginning, or something.

Hey man, nice mod, totally adds some missing stuff to the game. But before I campaign for Celeron to put this in Minetest, I'd suggest a few features :)

-Collision detection: Collision detection is simply MINEsential for this mod, especially as the Minecraft one HAS that. And, in my opinion, it would add some more life to the carts that's currently desperately missing. At the moment, the carts are good but pretty lifeless. Oh and don't forget your monorails mod has CD also! So why not this, considering this is several times more popular?

-Sitting in the cart: I'm not a fan of having to dig 3 tall tunnel to take in cart-riders without being blindfolded all the way. And anyway, the MC one has this no? And MT is meant to be a substitute for MC no? So plz do this simple thing.

-Cargo carts: This is something that your excellent monorails mod has. And it's gonna look cool also. And (here it comes!!!) MC has this.

-A way to control which way to turn at switches: It's not nice having to either have no switches or a quasi-switch with brake rails and a sign saying "mine ur cat her n plac it wher u wont"(sigh guess I just gave you that idea :D) And also MC DOES NOT HAVE THIS :D

-Y-Switches: Krock's fork of your mod (boost_cart) demonstrates this in texture form. However, with said switching controlling, you can actually make practical use of this. Goto the last sentence of the previous feature request

-A way to "push" the cart when you're on it: Many a minecart I've lost to not being able to get in in time. So I ask, please, please, PLEASE implement this as this is VERY frustrating. You could, you know, like have the player on board face the direction he/she wants to go and point at the cart inside and punch..

-Diagonal rails: Making continuous corners for a diagonal section of rail looks unsightly and also Minecraft Classic (more well known as Manic Digger) has them. Although I know Celeron should have done this, he probably didn't because of the absence of carts. Now, with carts, you can add the appeal of this mod compared to MC's default cart implementation and thus help increase the number of ppl coming to MT with this :D


PLZ respond and add these features Please :)
And sorry if my post is rather confusing or unstructured :) or even offensive :O AND PLEASE CORRECT ANY MISTAKE!!!!

EDIT: Krock's fork's switching one is a WORKING IMPLEMENTATION!!!! EVERYBODY FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!!

AbJ: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10172

TenPlus1 wrote:AbJ: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10172

OMG THAAAAAAAAANK YOOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and by the way that was just a few seconds? minutes? apart from my post :D
You other people also better check this boost_cart out;It's SUPER cool!

TenPlus1 wrote:AbJ: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10172

Yeah but it does not contian the following points: (2nd point exists in Jordach's BFD carts version)

ABJ wrote:-Collision detection: <snip>

-Sitting in the cart: <snip>

-Diagonal rails: <snip>

It's quite hard to make diagonal rails and the current directions are already enough for the most uses.

ABJ wrote:You other people also better check this boost_cart out;It's SUPER cool!

Thanks for your interest.

Krock wrote:

TenPlus1 wrote:AbJ: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10172

Yeah but it does not contian the following points: (2nd point exists in Jordach's BFD carts version)

ABJ wrote:-Collision detection: <snip>

-Sitting in the cart: <snip>

-Diagonal rails: <snip>

It's quite hard to make diagonal rails and the current directions are already enough for the most uses.

ABJ wrote:You other people also better check this boost_cart out;It's SUPER cool!

Thanks for your interest.

That diagonal rails thing I didn't mean THAT seriously........It was more of a thing that might make railways look better. But of course you wouldn't guess it :)

But I'm DESPERATE about that sitting in cart thingy, and although I might look up that BFD cart thing, not everybody would. In fact, most people probably wouldn't bother looking at forks. I was more of talking in my more or less former and most peoples current sense :)

Welcome Krock.

PA Wait I forgot! Cart coupling to make cart trains!!!! -will work EXCELLENTLY-until traintest of course :D but thats much later :) for now plz add the cart train feature with a special "control cart" for controlling also.

Krock wrote:It's quite hard to make diagonal rails

There HAS been a pull request to add them: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/pull/8
But I've never tested it.

Kilarin wrote:

Krock wrote:It's quite hard to make diagonal rails

There HAS been a pull request to add them: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/pull/8
But I've never tested it.

Thats waaaaaaay back in 2013. Sad that PA didn't do anything about it. By the way how do I get the files? And where to put them? (I'm not the best in Github)

I have a problem with this mod, the carts stop moving after 100 blocks.

Thats how my tunnels look alike

freakedenough wrote:I have a problem with this mod, the carts stop moving after 100 blocks.

Thats how my tunnels look alike

You can add more power rails. Don't worry about the cart overspeeding because it has a good speed limit. I've got a railway network made entirely of power rails and brake rails at station. And carts don't go too fast :)

It seems that those powered rails dont do anything. It doesnt help to add more of them.

freakedenough wrote:It seems that those powered rails dont do anything. It doesnt help to add more of them.

No they do. Cart's can't go 100 nodes if you just push. They need power rails. By the way did you worldedit the power rails in there? Or do you have mesecons enabled?

no worldedit and no mesecons enabled. i also tried to use only powerrails
after 100 blocks im standing still.

freakedenough wrote:no worldedit and no mesecons enabled. i also tried to use only powerrails
after 100 blocks im standing still.

Sigh I don't know WHAT to do about that. Try reinstalling.
BTW it's a griefing shame none of the pros are helping him :(

power rails need a power source.
Use mese blocks or mesecons or blinkyplants or ...

visit a server with carts installed and study the layouts


a screenshot from just a few weeks ago on this very thread showing a staion with meseblocks and buttons to start the cart when sitting inside and blinky plants powering the rails

twoelk wrote:power rails need a power source.
Use mese blocks or mesecons or blinkyplants or ...

visit a server with carts installed and study the layouts

a screenshot from just a few weeks ago on this very thread showing a staion with meseblocks and buttons to start the cart when sitting inside and blinky plants powering the rails

That's WITH mesecons. Mesecons have all these things. We're talking about non-mesecons powerrails. That said, I've visited many a server with carts installed, and they do not have wires next to the railways. I suggest looking at the area near the spawn with rails of Liberty Land Minetest, and Craig's Server's railway network when it's up and running again.
They don't have wires because they don't have mesecons. I've even successfully ridden a cart on both (though on Liberty Land I got stuck because a deficiency of powerrails and "derailed" on Craig's' :D)

EDIT: And I've got my own personal railway with no wires which actually works with no cart getting stuck at all. If you want, I'll show screenshots even :-)

I believe IF mesecons are inatalled, a power source is needed for each power rail. But if mesecons are not installed, the power rails will work without mesecons. But you still need a power rail every few normal rails. Or thats how they used to work.

I usually put 15 normal rails and 1 powered rails, and if you put a bunch of powered rails at the beginning, the cart keeps its speed pretty well, though I think it slows down after a while. I usually use this if I'm low on mese, or need to quickly lay a bunch of rails in un protected areas.

FWIW look lag01 on forum and githib, he has a fork which works quite well on a server with many clients. I really don't think I have had much trouble with the mod, ot may have been optimized for heavy client load. Works quite well. I must say, for a quick demonstration go to the Jist Test server and hitch a ride near spawn. Carts are usually backed up at sunrise side of spawn past glass building. Try there to feel optimised used server mode.

ExeterDad wrote:I believe IF mesecons are inatalled, a power source is needed for each power rail. But if mesecons are not installed, the power rails will work without mesecons. But you still need a power rail every few normal rails. Or thats how they used to work.

That's my point.

maikerumine wrote:FWIW look lag01 on forum and githib, he has a fork which works quite well on a server with many clients. I really don't think I have had much trouble with the mod, ot may have been optimized for heavy client load. Works quite well. I must say, for a quick demonstration go to the Jist Test server and hitch a ride near spawn. Carts are usually backed up at sunrise side of spawn past glass building. Try there to feel optimised used server mode.

I doubt that server is on the public list (At least I don't see it on my in-game list). What is that fork called? And if there is a forum thread can you post link? E|:-)

ABJ wrote:

maikerumine wrote:FWIW look lag01 on forum and githib, he has a fork which works quite well on a server with many clients. I really don't think I have had much trouble with the mod, ot may have been optimized for heavy client load. Works quite well. I must say, for a quick demonstration go to the Jist Test server and hitch a ride near spawn. Carts are usually backed up at sunrise side of spawn past glass building. Try there to feel optimised used server mode.

I doubt that server is on the public list (At least I don't see it on my in-game list). What is that fork called? And if there is a forum thread can you post link? E|:-)

It should be near the top of the list (it's "just test" not "jist test"), though it does restart every day at 5:30, and takes a while to come back on. (usually it's back at around 6:00)

[quote="12Me21"It should be near the top of the list (it's "just test" not "jist test"), though it does restart every day at 5:30, and takes a while to come back on. (usually it's back at around 6:00)[/quote]
Oh that. I remember rails in the flooded tunnel I ended up after descending a waterfall at spawn :( But me no ride cuz no cart and me get bord stif in der so me leeve

If you still need graphics for this, I'd be happy to help.

Here's some of my work:

http://torywright.deviantart.com/

Um.....as I've said before, can you please add collision detection?
Or can someone at least fork? With coll-det and cargo carts? :)
(Well I'll personally maybe do that when I'm more learned in this stuff :D but for now, goto above)