thegreatone wrote:So I applaud anyone who has good morals [...] So sad when morals and courtesy create such controversy
Wuzzy wrote:Oh, come on, this is <== Worthless stuff snipped ==> way to express this.
Wuzzy wrote:Oh, come on, this is fucking bullshit. Don't you have more serious problems than license names?
Nothing is wrong with the word “fuck”. In fact, is is quite useful. Citing Wikipedia: “Fuck has a very flexible role in English grammar, including use as both a transitive and intransitive verb, and as an adjective, adverb, and noun.[14] It can also be used as an interjection and a grammatical ejaculation. Linguist Geoffrey Hughes found eight distinct usages for English curse words, and fuck can apply to each.”. Removing this word from English would be fucking insane. (See what I did there?)
Also, I think we already have a huge mess of licenses, adding one more just adds to the confusion. You're not helping. :-( You are making things worse. And I find the acronym DWYWPL really hard to remember, WTFPL is much easier because of the “WTF” part in it. WTF is also a common part of chat slang for “What The Fuck”. Maybe it's because of the name because this license is pretty popular. :)
Also that DWhateverIForgotTheName license is redundant. As celeron55 has suggested, if you really want to cling on your crazy delusion that the word “fuck” must be removed from the language, you can just use any other of the “Public Domain” licenses like CC0.
DWWYWYWWWXVPL (that's what it's called, right?) is completely unknown, hard to remember and completely redundant to WTFPL. I rather stick with WTFPL then. I basically chose WTFPL because I do not want to trample on the freedom of others and it is very easy to understand, without all that legalese. I'd rather would use no license at all
because I think everyone should be free to share and adapt data at will, but this is not allowed in the broken copyright systems of the world, everything needs a permission. :-( But this is a different topic.
And I do not think we should submit to the demands of those who like to police language. To those we should rather say: “Get fucking used to it!”I work at a school with kids K-8th and I would really love having them browse these forums and gits and try out new mods especially over our summer camp and at home but the WTFPL makes it so that I can't even suggest them doing it.
I think this distills the whole “problem” here: If you have a problem that kids will be exposed to supposedly “bad language” in the Internet, then you don't really want them to get to the Internet in the first place. If you are afraid the kids will become “bad” because someone said the word “fuck” in the Internet somewhere, then you are a dangeours lunatic who should not be allowed near kids. There is no safe way to express this.
jp wrote:Oh my god, it says "fuck" in an acronym. That's truly obnoxious, indeed...
FWIW, I'm not going to use your license. I don't give a single shit about the political correctness, for most of devs only good code matters.
Tmanyo wrote:jp wrote:Oh my god, it says "fuck" in an acronym. That's truly obnoxious, indeed...
FWIW, I'm not going to use your license. I don't give a single shit about the political correctness, for most of devs only good code matters.
What the topic starter said: I work at a school with kids K-8th
He may not even care either if he wasn't working with young kids. So to state your opinion like that is saying " Ha I am not going to use your license so go stick it". So how does this post help the topic??
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Tmanyo wrote:Another alternative is to not tell the kids what WTFPL means.
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TheReaperKing wrote:EDIT - I want to write this a little nicer.
Kids know what WTF means and more importantly their parents do too. But, even more importantly if you've looked at even minetest_game the WTF license is included in quite a few mods which directly uses the F word. Also, why on earth would I ever tell them what WTF means? That is kind of a strange suggestion from you.
TheReaperKing wrote:Yes, they are learning to put in their own blocks. If I ever cussed in school wow I'd be done so fast. I'm really amazed that it happened in your school. Did they get canned?
EDIT - Also they are going to be putting in their own items too and I made inner tubes for them in the pools and similar accessories they'll be making too with blender and making (or really probably editing at first) mods to make those accessories work in game.
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