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by **Leroy** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 19:35

Can we get the Boats mod?
It will make water travel easier

by **Leroy** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 19:42

Protection request: My Busmobile.

COORDS:-68.8, 20.5, -251.2 to -81.3, 19.5, -245.1

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by **webdesigner97** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 20:05

Happy new year 2013 :)

by **Leroy** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 21:41

For some reason, When I drop something, It dissapears completely!

by **aldobr** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 23:39

my two cents :

How people grief ?

I watched a total stranger enter the server for the first time. What was his first action ?

He tried to grief the spawn area (he was unable because the spawn is protected).

So i told him not to touch anything he did not build himself, because he could get banned.

I dont know if he followed my advice. Thats not the point.

The point is : why the f... the first reaction of new people is to try to destroy the first thing that the server throws at them ??

by **Traxie21** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 02:45

Alrighty guys, I get a new job today, and will not have time/resources to play anymore. If anyone wants my house, they can claim it, getting on and unclaiming chests and signs.
Its above spawn a bit, stonebrick/cobble castle with red wool accents up top and a lava moat.

by **slendergirl66** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 03:17

Just a note, I likely wont be visiting at all. Don't get me wrong, guys, I love all of you. It's just that i recently discovered that Minetest was taking up WAY too much space on my computer, so I deleted it.
Anyways, I will still visit the forums, so I'd love to keep in contact with everyone!
Love ya all
SG66
PS: If anyone sees Cold_Fire online, please tell him!!!

by **Traxie21** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 03:19

Bye all! My house is unclaimed and all my things are in public chests, signs are removed. Restrooms are still public, womens is on left, mens on right.

BYE!!!
Wish I could stay longer, but real life has just claimed another victim.

by **cactuz_pl** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 08:06

aldobr wrote:The point is : why the f... the first reaction of new people is to try to destroy the first thing that the server throws at them ??

It's simple:

cactuz_pl wrote:Some players do not know how to properly maintain

Most of them think: "It's just game lol, let's destroy this house and have fun lolololol" and I don't want tolerate such.

I don't want to be dictator.

I can restore the old rules, but I don't want to do this myself, I need your support.

I came up with a way to vote:
1. We will find free spot and divide it into two areas, first for "No mercy law" and second for "New indulgence law".
2. Players* can vote by placing locked signs in areas.
3. If somebody vote twice, both his votes will be cancelled.
4. I will count votes after week.

Players* (who can vote?) - to avoid multi-accounting, may vote only players with 2 areas (according to the list form last night, 31th, I have it on my PC)
Edit: Sub-areas doesn't count.

What do you think about this concept?

by **cactuz_pl** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 09:39

Traxie21 wrote:Bye all! My house is unclaimed and all my things are in public chests, signs are removed. Restrooms are still public, womens is on left, mens on right.

BYE!!!
Wish I could stay longer, but real life has just claimed another victim.

I will protect your castle, it is too amazing to leave it unprotected. Edit: Done.

But the chests are still to take. :D

by **Sokomine** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 16:26

Seeing griefed houses is always sad. But still, griefers may learn and behave better in the future. At least some may.

Maybe there is a third solution to the problem with the griefers. The area protection allows to dig and place nodes on ground where one has the permission to do so and on land that is not owned. How if that was changed for griefers? They could be "granted" a special priv like "rehabilitation" and be forbidden to build/dig on *unprotected* land - while still beeing able to build on their own areas. Granted, this might make life more difficult for them, but they *did* cause other people (especially cactuz) to waste time with them. This way, they can still prove that they've changed - by investing time in a very good building that would be lost due to rollback if they griefed again.

That solution would require changes to the mod that does the protection. At least that would have to be done just once. Finding out if previous griefers did improve their behaviour and did construct something of value in the meantime and thus can regain full privileges (or loose the limiting priv) will take time.

by **cactuz_pl** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 16:46

Sokomine wrote:That solution would require changes to the mod that does the protection.

... and requires the intervention of redcrab.

As you said rollback is punishment in itself, we can add to this 3 days without "interact" and ban only most annoying greifers (after 3 rollbacks, for example).

by **davidpace** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 17:02

Cactuz, I may not be able to vote in-game like you suggested we do, I'm very busy at times. Usually I only have time to check the forums. But I vote for No mercy law. Happy New Year!

by **cactuz_pl** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 17:13

davidpace wrote:Cactuz, I may not be able to vote in-game like you suggested we do, I'm very busy at times. Usually I only have time to check the forums. But I vote for No mercy law. Happy New Year!

Voting was only concept.
Sokomone's idea is better than No mercy law, destroying greifer's work is good punishment.

by **davidpace** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 18:08

Okay :D

by **Leroy** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 19:53

Aldobr, where is my hole with all my stuff at. plz show me where it is

by **Neuro** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:04

I like sokomines idea the best, wouldnt it take a lot of time to do that though, to get it to work?

by **Nexdah** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:26

HELLO_IM_DEATH Was griefing my mansion When I was doing some Improvements. Please protect my area now!

by **Obiewan1111** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:30

Nexdah wrote:HELLO_IM_DEATH Was griefing my mansion When I was doing some Improvements. Please protect my area now!

It was Randy all along. D:

by **HELLO_IM_DEATH** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:30

one i did not grief nothing is anything gone no? you told me to leave so i left.

by **davidpace** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:31

I think HELLO_IM_DEATH should be perma banned now! Nexdah if you didn't fix up your mansion yet, DO NOT TOUCH IT!

Cactuz needs proof of the grief, he will use rollbackcheck, do not touch your mansion if you want to get rid of griefers such as HELLO_IM_DEATH!!!!

by **Obiewan1111** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:36

Isn't there an equivalent to logs? Or logs itself? He could just check them, am I wrong?

by **davidpace** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:37

I don't think redcrab is online much, I dunno if he is seeing this.. And I doubt cactuzPL can check...

by **AspireMint** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 20:50

Hello, i vote for my idea ^^

1. build school <--- spawn
2. destroy abandoned houses at spawn (more areas for new players)
or rebuild + protect
3. rebuild important/rich(superglowglass:D) roads + protect
4. no mercy law because of 1. point

but i will agree with your decision :)

by **Chinchow** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 22:03

If I_AM_DEATH griefed ban him Nexdah could you explain what he was doing
I_AM_DEATH can you explain what you were doing there?

by **MisterBananas** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 23:52

davidpace wrote:I don't think redcrab is online much, I dunno if he is seeing this.. And I doubt cactuzPL can check...

Even if he doesn't have access to the logs it seems that Cactuz is able to see the last person to interact with specific nodes, which is why people are advised not to do repairs until he's had a chance to see the griefed area.

by **Leroy** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 02:16

We need the Boats Mod

by **ssrock64** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 03:18

Here's some pictures of the destruction of my sky mansion and dvx's lava property next to it. I'll be protecting my sky mansion as soon as I repair it, and I hope dvx protects his property soon because this is the second and worst time his lava has been used for ill.

I came home to find a giant, fugly wooden entrace all over my grand entrace, but I fixed it and most other major damage in a rage before I started snapping shots. Here's the stuff I got after wisening up.

The first photo here is of my glowglass column on the top floor, which has become an ugly path to the roof.

This is between my path and dvx's property. I just built that wall with the sign a few days ago because somebody else griefed in a much more minor manner, but this is much worse now.

Here's the sign changed to give whoever did it credit, which I discovered after clearing away the wood all over my entrance.

Every tree in and around my house (which were all sculpted in specific shapes) is gone.

Back on the ground with dvx's property, a canal has been dug and filled with lava, ruining many nearby paths. The lava flows underground into an undergrand lake that contains many of my mineshafts. I fixed it was best I could and got rid of the lava sources, but there's sitll damage all around.

by **davidpace** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 04:35

DO NOT REPAIR THE DAMAGE!!! WAIT FOR CACTUZ TO ROLLBACK IT!!

by **Leroy** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 05:42

Grief Report:

Mario was griefed.

Huge Block of water

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