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by **Menche** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 03:23

Well I'd try to keep the map at least. I really don't know whats going on.

by **KatieKitten** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 03:31

ya i dont want to lose the cove even tho its not done yet

by **Menche** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 03:35

Now it's been crashing immediately on login.

by **RandomBot** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 03:41

test theory. can you create another server with the exact same load out thats in the current one and see if it crashes immediately?

by **SegFault22** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 03:41

Maybe a fresh start IS what we need - the city I was making was planned to be at coordinates 0,0,4000, but instead it's on top of a cliff nearby. And there was no room for the Imperial Fortress, so it just floats above the water. People's houses are too far out in the streets and just look weird, and there are numerous gaps in the security wall, the tunnel to the UnderLand is messed-up and the sneak elevators are on different sides in many random places, MESE doesn't generate at the level where the tunnel ends, Nyancats spawn in lava rivers and are almost impossible to ''save'', Durmia isn't built on an exact scale (street squares should be able to fill up the entire city with no half-squares and the gates should be in the center of the walls), the list goes on...but IDK, it may be best to keep this map, because we have all put a lot of work into building the cities here.
P.S. it seems like the error making it crash is centered on one point somewhere in the map (see the error data you posted, Menche) and it may work to go into SP mode and make that node ''air''

by **SegFault22** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 03:53

Oh, well it seems the map got corrupted...now there's no way to fix it...a new map is the only option - other than just shutting down the server forever.

by **Menche** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 04:37

SegFault22 wrote:Maybe a fresh start IS what we need - the city I was making was planned to be at coordinates 0,0,4000, but instead it's on top of a cliff nearby. And there was no room for the Imperial Fortress, so it just floats above the water. People's houses are too far out in the streets and just look weird, and there are numerous gaps in the security wall, the tunnel to the UnderLand is messed-up and the sneak elevators are on different sides in many random places, MESE doesn't generate at the level where the tunnel ends, Nyancats spawn in lava rivers and are almost impossible to ''save'', Durmia isn't built on an exact scale (street squares should be able to fill up the entire city with no half-squares and the gates should be in the center of the walls), the list goes on...but IDK, it may be best to keep this map, because we have all put a lot of work into building the cities here.
P.S. it seems like the error making it crash is centered on one point somewhere in the map (see the error data you posted, Menche) and it may work to go into SP mode and make that node ''air''

So, what does everyone think about this? If I start a new map, I would put a backup of the old one up for download, so you can play it in singleplayer or even host it yourself. Also, if I make a new map, I could worldedit some of the old structures in. I sort of want to start over, but I don't want to overly upset anyone.

My reasons for wanting to start over from scratch:
This is my first server, I'm just learning to manage it, rules and policies have been very volatile.
The map and players were transfered from the "test server" which was not meant to be permanent.
I wanted this to be a "legit building" server, but moderators have more privs than I originally intended, and are making extensive use of fly, teleport, and worldedit.
I want moderators to be only for policing the server, not super-players with special privileges.
I want have a more controlled policy for promoting moderators.
I want to have a more controlled policy for installing mods, to have a more polished feel and to keep stability and responsiveness.

by **KatieKitten** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 04:59

a new map will be ok with me. i was wondering if i can be a moderator but thats up to you.

by **RandomBot** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 06:05

im neutral to a reset, i just want somewhere to build.

www.Youtube.com/user/lolmankubaa · by **LolManKuba** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 07:32

same here, Infinity if it resets and you start making another surmia or ect. stuff.

by **MisterBananas** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 07:55

No preference either way.

by **InfinityProject** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 08:02

Solution: save everything important in .we files i.e. //save durmia and back it up on your computer.

by **Topywo** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 08:08

Menche wrote:So, what does everyone think about this? If I start a new map, I would put a backup of the old one up for download, so you can play it in singleplayer or even host it yourself. Also, if I make a new map, I could worldedit some of the old structures in. I sort of want to start over, but I don't want to overly upset anyone.

My reasons for wanting to start over from scratch:
This is my first server, I'm just learning to manage it, rules and policies have been very volatile.
The map and players were transfered from the "test server" which was not meant to be permanent.
I wanted this to be a "legit building" server, but moderators have more privs than I originally intended, and are making extensive use of fly, teleport, and worldedit.
I want moderators to be only for policing the server, not super-players with special privileges.
I want have a more controlled policy for promoting moderators.
I want to have a more controlled policy for installing mods, to have a more polished feel and to keep stability and responsiveness.

I agree and support your reasons to start from scratch.

by **sdzen** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:42

sure man I'm fine with it not that you actually need our opinions on this if it needs to be deleted, delete it!

by **lazyretard55** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 18:40

May i join the server? I heard good things. build I meant.

by **KatieKitten** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 21:35

i wouldnt do it he has a bad name.

www.Youtube.com/user/lolmankubaa · by **LolManKuba** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 21:39

katie maybe ask someone with worldedit to save it
and load it when the map comes back, that's what;s infinity's doing. (this is for your earlier post) if they can

by **KatieKitten** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 21:40

hey it wont let me on the server it says invalid password but i didnt even make a char sence he reset the server.

www.Youtube.com/user/lolmankubaa · by **LolManKuba** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 21:41

maybe something with the players folder in the worlds folder if he hasn't deleted it.

by **Topywo** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 21:50

It doesn't accept the password, nor empty.

www.Youtube.com/user/lolmankubaa · by **LolManKuba** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 21:50

must still be corrupted

by **KatieKitten** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 22:00

im going to miss my Kitten Cafe even tho i might have gotten shut down any min for serveing cooked rat. XD XD gotta love that.

by **Menche** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 02:49

OK, server is up again. Sorry for the delay, I was packing / riding in the car, coming home from vacation, and couldn't work on it much. It does have a new map, but I will be worldediting in structures from the old world, tell me if you miss something. I transferred the auth.txt, so your passwords should be the same. Some of the mods have been update, most notably 3dforniture, which now adds round treetrunks and 3D papyrus. I added round conifer trunks and cacti.

by **vaaron** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 04:54

hey man here ya go

by **Menche** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 05:05

vaaron wrote:hey man here ya go

OK, privs granted. Welcome!

by **madchicken13** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 06:11

Im Willing to Try the Server
When in try to login it says client protocal=10 server protocal=11
I have the newest version of minetest

by **Death Dealer** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 07:10

LolManKuba wrote:katie maybe ask someone with worldedit to save it
and load it when the map comes back, that's what;s infinity's doing. (this is for your earlier post) if they can

its kind of a pain to do it like that.. world edit only save areas 15x15x15.. world edit is good for modular pieces that big. anything bigger than that and its almost impossible to know the cords or whitch blocks to hit to save the piece of whatever.

by **KatieKitten** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 07:41

The Kitten Cafe is now hireing your choice of one day or a full time job. we require you to pick apples you will be paid 1 copper coin per 5 apples you bring in. if you decide to be full time you will get deal of buy one get 1 free on anything sold in the cafe everytime you come.

www.Youtube.com/user/lolmankubaa · by **LolManKuba** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 07:52

Death Dealer wrote:
LolManKuba wrote:katie maybe ask someone with worldedit to save it
and load it when the map comes back, that's what;s infinity's doing. (this is for your earlier post) if they can

its kind of a pain to do it like that.. world edit only save areas 15x15x15.. world edit is good for modular pieces that big. anything bigger than that and its almost impossible to know the cords or whitch blocks to hit to save the piece of whatever.

Really? Thats not even that much,

by **Topywo** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 09:29

madchicken13 wrote:Im Willing to Try the Server
When in try to login it says client protocal=10 server protocal=11
I have the newest version of minetest

You need the nightly build of 17/06/2012.

http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/?C=M;O=A

Or https://github.com/celeron55/minetest (scroll down)

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