[Modpack] Animals Modpack [2.5] -- 2.6 approaching

[Neuromancer]

Is there a command to delete all animals? There is a vombie stuck somewhere in my house, maybe in a block, and it is really annoying me.

Sorry but this is hilarious. Just glad it isn't me. :)

[Temperest]

Be careful with /clearobjects, though, this will remove ALL objects. That means every animal, in every farm, every crop (that is an entity), every minecart, etc., on every chunk of the map, regardless of whether they are currently loaded or not.

[Qaddosh]

@Lelix as of animals mod 1.3.2 you can use it with 0.4.1 too by adding following line to your minetest.conf

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disable_animals_3d_mode = true


That's handy for those of us who don't need or want 3D animals for various reasons.
Do you have a 2D wolf model? The mod is complaining that there is no 2D wolf model when I set this in my conf.

[rubenwardy]

Have a look at this, Sapier.

https://github.com/philnelson/A-Star-Pathfinding-For-Lua

This could improve your pathfinding loads, if it is compatible

Also, you should use GitHub. It is much better the MediaFire (Plagued with Malware and Viruses)

[sapier]

@rubenwardy thanks for the info. By now there ain't a real path based movement gen in animals mod. Currently movement is random only. Pathfinding is planed for future releases for some time but I didn't have time to implement.
Looks like a 2D pathfinding algorithm but I'll have a closer look at it when implementing path based movement.

@ALL the "hang" Bug mentioned by PilzAdam is related to performance. It's related to collision handling as I guessed before but not the way I thought. Reason why minetest is running havoc aint exception handling but simply the time required to do exception handling. If time between collision checks increases the distance between points to be checkt increases. Therefore next time even more time has passed to next check and more points have to be checked again ...

Without fix in minetest you can only prevent this to happen with a reasonably fast machine that avoids happening long deltas between checks at all

EDIT1:
@Qaddosh no by now there ain't a 2D wolf model by now I considered 2D mode legacy only. Adding 2D wolf is low prio for me by now. If someone provides graphics I'll add them of course.

[sapier]

@Temperest
hmm I don't think a vombie is stuck in your house but probably someone should write some sort of "vombie detector mod" ... It wouldn't be that hard.

[irksomeduck]

Is there any way to kill enemy mobs or spawn an animal using server commands?

[Phitherek_]

I have one question. I don' t use this mod (because of performance) but I would really like to. Is there a possibility it will be faster some day (I mean, it will not freeze the server, cause worlds to not load etc.)?

[VanessaE]

What's the word on using compiled Lua? Can the game run such files? If so, maybe that'll provide a good workaround until someone fixes the relevant bug(s) in the game/server.

(Might also be helpful for worldedit, 3dforniture and mesecons, which can also be pretty heavy on CPU usage)

[sapier]

I've already suggested that (lua jit) but I've been told that would even make situation worse.

The bug ain't an animals bug its a core bug. Any other entity having a acceleration set to someting about 9.81 (earth gravity) or larger most likely will trigger it too.

[rubenwardy]

@rubenwardy thanks for the info. By now there ain't a real path based movement gen in animals mod. Currently movement is random only. Pathfinding is planed for future releases for some time but I didn't have time to implement.
Looks like a 2D pathfinding algorithm but I'll have a closer look at it when implementing path based movement.

@ALL the "hang" Bug mentioned by PilzAdam is related to performance. It's related to collision handling as I guessed before but not the way I thought. Reason why minetest is running havoc aint exception handling but simply the time required to do exception handling. If time between collision checks increases the distance between points to be checkt increases. Therefore next time even more time has passed to next check and more points have to be checked again ...

Without fix in minetest you can only prevent this to happen with a reasonably fast machine that avoids happening long deltas between checks at all

EDIT1:
@Qaddosh no by now there ain't a 2D wolf model by now I considered 2D mode legacy only. Adding 2D wolf is low prio for me by now. If someone provides graphics I'll add them of course.

Yeah, the tammed wolf gets stuck in my floor boards, so i have to kill it.

someone should add pathfinding in c++, so in lua you could call:

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Wolf:

ai = {
       enabled=true,
       aggressive={player,chickens},
       friendly={wolf},
       scared={voombie},
       speed=2,
       attack=10,
},


in the wolf register_node etc


That would be good.



You should add butter, cream and cheese.

Could even add a churner, to determine the outcome




You should use GitHub

[sapier]

@rubenwardy celeron just removed mobs from core i don't think he's going to readd it anytime soon.

If your wolf gets stuck run away from him he's going to teleport to you if he cant reach you within 10 seconds

[rubenwardy]

@rubenwardy celeron just removed mobs from core i don't think he's going to readd it anytime soon.

If your wolf gets stuck run away from him he's going to teleport to you if he cant reach you within 10 seconds

Not add mobs, add a way to access pathfinding in the core from lua.




This mod is going to be supported in my coming soon Food mod.

The mod will contain butter, cheese and cream

[Josh]

Is there a command to delete all animals? There is a vombie stuck somewhere in my house, maybe in a block, and it is really annoying me.

Sorry but this is hilarious. Just glad it isn't me. :)

Haha yeah it does sound kind of funny. No offense rubenwardy

[rubenwardy]

Is there a command to delete all animals? There is a vombie stuck somewhere in my house, maybe in a block, and it is really annoying me.

Sorry but this is hilarious. Just glad it isn't me. :)

Haha yeah it does sound kind of funny. No offense rubenwardy

I know :)

[K0Game]

How can i install this?
It's a very nice mod!
I like it!

[Topywo]

You can:
1) extract all the separate directories of the containing directory ("animals_modpack") in the mods/minetest directory or
2) extract the containing directory ("animals_modpack") in the mods/minetest directory, then open the containing directory (where all the animal directories are) and create there a file called modpack.txt.

[sapier]

I've created a Github issue for the server hang. All of you experiencing it there's a workaround too. Issue 229

[irksomeduck]

If you could tone down the dungeon masters, that would be nice because one nearly burned down my mine tracks once D:

[sapier]

@irksomeduck I've just released a new version. One of the problems fixed was dm's spawning at lighted areas. I'm not sure if this completly matches your problem but if your mine is lightet chances dm won't spawn there are very high.

I've fixed some minor glitches and added vault generation based uppon celeron's code in this version of dm. There's a new tracing implementation in there too, by default it's disabled so it won't cause any problems for those not having the required lua modules.

Have fun ;-)

Github Issue 229 is still open so make sure your server is fast enough or has the workaround added. Yes it's a server only problem client doesn't need to be modified.

[PilzAdam]

Can you set up a GitHub repo for this project to make it easier for other (possibly me) to contribute?

[sapier]

Currently I use svn for version control. So I'd prefere a hosting service using svn.

I personaly don't like git, please don't start another "but git is better" discussion. I know git has it's benefits, they're just not of any worth for me personaly while usage of git is plain creapy. ;-) Probably at some time in future git will be as comfortable to use as svn but until then I'm not going to switch to it.

EDIT1: If you wanna setup a git repository yourself for patch exchange I'm not gonna stop you ;-)

[PilzAdam]

Currently I use svn for version control. So I'd prefere a hosting service using svn.

I personaly don't like git, please don't start another "but git is better" discussion. I know git has it's benefits, they're just not of any worth for me personaly while usage of git is plain creapy. ;-) Probably at some time in future git will be as comfortable to use as svn but until then I'm not going to switch to it.

You dont have to use it at main version control, but you can give others the possiblity to make pull requests.

[sapier]

I'm sorry but I don't have time to maintain two different version control trees.

And as there aren't even lot's of bugreports, most only complain if mod doesn't work at all. I don't really believe there would be many people participating in development.

EDIT1:
As added in previous post, if you wanna create bugfix git repository I surely won't ignore fixes added there.

[sapier]

@Neuromancer I've updated your butterflies mod to work with animals again it's going to work as of animals mod 1.3.5
Butterflies Mod 0.0.4

[Mito551]

doesn't work.

ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error running function on_activate: ...\mods\animals/management_functions.lua:365: attempt to call field 'init_dynamic_data' (a nil value)

minetest-0.4.2-rc1-0e6f7a2-win32 is the version

do you need any more details?

[sapier]

Yes I do need more information, error message you're providing means sound has no element "init_dynamic_data".

As sound does have this element this could mean there is a naming conflict.
Can you tell me what other mods are installed?

[Mito551]

[sapier]

ok .... sorry I don't have time to find mod conflicts with that much mods installed.

please try with minetest_game and animals mod only installed. If that works and you can tell me which mod exactly causes the conflict I'll see what I can do. I'd start trying the sound related mods.

[Neuromancer]

Whoa, you have ambience and ambientsounds mods installed? What is ambientsounds mod? Where did you find it?