[Mod] Technic [0.4.16-dev] [technic]

[ShadowNinja]

Yeah.. when I very first started to play Minetest, Technic was one of the first mods I downloaded.. had no idea that 'stable' did not mean 'use this version unless you want to crash'.. which is what 'stable' normally means.

"Stable" refers to what was, at the time, the stable version of Minetest. Technic master should always be considered stable unless known to be otherwise. (And stability issues are usually fixed quickly)
Potentially unstable things are pushed to a testing branch until they've been thouroughly tested.

I have downloaded the dev version/github version since that time.. however, I reverted to the stable version due to not feeling like digging thru the forums to get unified inventory and crafting guides installed separately.. they were included in the stable version as part of the modpack.

Unified Inventory was seperated from Technic. See the Unified Inventory topic for downloads. (It's under the same organization)

Is there any version that is not depending of so many other mods. I would like to run it on a server, but it will work slow with all those other mods. :)

Some of the dependencies in the topic post are no longer required. MoreTrees and PlantLife are two of them, although installing them will give you better rubber tree generation.

[FNC]

PLZ UPDAIT RECIPIES, like grinder, no recipie for it!

-FNC

[Topywo]

PLZ UPDAIT RECIPIES, like grinder, no recipie for it!

-FNC

Post 707:

https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130915#p130915


In the lua files of the machines under:

minetest/mods/technic-master/technic/machines/LV/ (and MV/HV)

you'll find a lot of technic's crafting recipes.

[FNC]

ok thanks

-FNC

[sawik]

Hy Guys! I like to say that You made wonderful piece of work! But I have some problem running Technic...

I'm using Minetest 4.9 provided in debian testing repo. Once I was able to run technic. Then I have added some other mods (propably mccarpet and plastic) and I constantly get error like "unable to load and run [...]technic/technic/init.lua"...

Bellow are mods I'm using:

[spoiler]gameid = minetest
backend = sqlite3
load_mod_3d_armor = true
load_mod_along_shore = true
load_mod_ambience = true
load_mod_beds = true
load_mod_boats = true
load_mod_bushes = true
load_mod_bushes_classic = true
load_mod_cactusmod = true
load_mod_canyon = true
load_mod_carts = true
load_mod_cavestuff = true
load_mod_charcoal = true
load_mod_clams = true
load_mod_concrete = true
load_mod_creatures = false
load_mod_doors = true
load_mod_extranodes = true
load_mod_farming_plus = true
load_mod_fences = true
load_mod_flint = true
load_mod_flowers_plus = true
load_mod_food = true
load_mod_habitat = true
load_mod_homedecor = true
load_mod_hud = true
load_mod_intweak = true
load_mod_inventory_plus = true
load_mod_itemframes = true
load_mod_junglegrass = true
load_mod_magictest = true
load_mod_mapp = true
load_mod_mesecons = true
load_mod_mesecons_alias = true
load_mod_mesecons_blinkyplant = true
load_mod_mesecons_button = true
load_mod_mesecons_commandblock = true
load_mod_mesecons_compatibility = true
load_mod_mesecons_delayer = true
load_mod_mesecons_detector = true
load_mod_mesecons_extrawires = true
load_mod_mesecons_gates = true
load_mod_mesecons_hydroturbine = true
load_mod_mesecons_insulated = true
load_mod_mesecons_lamp = true
load_mod_mesecons_lightstone = true
load_mod_mesecons_luacontroller = true
load_mod_mesecons_materials = true
load_mod_mesecons_microcontroller = true
load_mod_mesecons_movestones = true
load_mod_mesecons_mvps = true
load_mod_mesecons_noteblock = true
load_mod_mesecons_pistons = true
load_mod_mesecons_powerplant = true
load_mod_mesecons_pressureplates = true
load_mod_mesecons_random = true
load_mod_mesecons_receiver = true
load_mod_mesecons_solarpanel = true
load_mod_mesecons_switch = true
load_mod_mesecons_textures = true
load_mod_mesecons_torch = true
load_mod_mesecons_walllever = true
load_mod_mg = false
load_mod_mines = true
load_mod_mobs = true
load_mod_moj = true
load_mod_molehills = true
load_mod_moreblocks = true
load_mod_moreores = true
load_mod_moretrees = true
load_mod_nature = true
load_mod_nether = true
load_mod_noairblocks = true
load_mod_paragenv7 = true
load_mod_pipeworks = true
load_mod_plants = true
load_mod_plants_lib = true
load_mod_poisonivy = true
load_mod_pyramids = true
load_mod_quartz = true
load_mod_riesenpilz = true
load_mod_ropes = true
load_mod_ruins = true
load_mod_santa = true
load_mod_seacoral = true
load_mod_seadye = true
load_mod_sealamps = true
load_mod_seaplants = true
load_mod_shields = true
load_mod_signs_lib = true
load_mod_simple_weapons = true
load_mod_stairsplus = true
load_mod_suffocating = true
load_mod_technic = true
load_mod_technic_chests = true
load_mod_technic_worldgen = true
load_mod_torches = true
load_mod_trash_can = true
load_mod_trunks = true
load_mod_unifieddyes = true
load_mod_watch = true
load_mod_wieldview = true
load_mod_woodsoils = true
load_mod_worldedit = true
load_mod_worldedit_commands = true
load_mod_wrench = true
load_mod_xpanes = true
load_mod_youngtrees = true
load_mod_zcg = true
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Any suggestions what could possibly go wrong?

[Topywo]

I constantly get error like "unable to load and run [...]technic/technic/init.lua"...

Can you copy here the ERROR-lines from the 'debug.txt' line?

[sawik]

I constantly get error like "unable to load and run [...]technic/technic/init.lua"...

Can you copy here the ERROR-lines from the 'debug.txt' line?

Yes, here You are:

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18:53:00: ACTION[main]: WARNING: Mod name conflict detected: "doors"
18:53:00: ACTION[main]: Will not load: /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/doors
18:53:00: ACTION[main]: Overridden by: /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/doors
[Habitat] Loaded!
[moreores] loaded.
[moreblocks] loaded.
[UnifiedDyes] Loaded!
[stairsplus] loaded.
[riesenpilz] Loaded!
[Plantlife Library] Loaded
[Moretrees] Loaded (2013-02-11)
[Mod] Mole Hills [0.0.3] [molehills] Loaded...
[Mod] Trunks [0.1.4] [trunks] Loaded...
[Mod] Wood Soils [0.0.9] [woodsoils] Loaded...
[Poison Ivy] Loaded.
[Flowers] Loaded.
[Mod] Along the Shore [0.0.4] [along_shore] Loaded...
[Plants] Loaded!
[Mod] Inventory Tweak _loaded
[Mod] Cave Stuff [0.0.3] [cavestuff] Loaded...
[OK] Mesecons
Pipeworks loaded!
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA ===========
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua:
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...ik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua:160: attempt to index global 'pipeworks' (a nil value)
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...ik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua:160: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'dofile'
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...awik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/HV/init.lua:7: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'dofile'
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...e/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/init.lua:8: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'dofile'
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua:35: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ======= END OF ERROR FROM LUA ========
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: Server: Failed to load and run /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ModError: ModError: Failed to load and run /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua
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It looks like technic loads itself before pipeworks...

[ShadowNinja]

I constantly get error like "unable to load and run [...]technic/technic/init.lua"...

We need the full error message to determine what the issue is. Run minetest from a terminal and copy the output, or copy the relevant part of debug.txt.

Unrelated: This is my 100th post! \o/

[UOAbigail]

Greetings

I constantly get error like "unable to load and run [...]technic/technic/init.lua"...

Can you copy here the ERROR-lines from the 'debug.txt' line?

Yes, here You are:

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18:53:00: ACTION[main]: WARNING: Mod name conflict detected: "doors"
18:53:00: ACTION[main]: Will not load: /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/doors
18:53:00: ACTION[main]: Overridden by: /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/doors
[Habitat] Loaded!
[moreores] loaded.
[moreblocks] loaded.
[UnifiedDyes] Loaded!
[stairsplus] loaded.
[riesenpilz] Loaded!
[Plantlife Library] Loaded
[Moretrees] Loaded (2013-02-11)
[Mod] Mole Hills [0.0.3] [molehills] Loaded...
[Mod] Trunks [0.1.4] [trunks] Loaded...
[Mod] Wood Soils [0.0.9] [woodsoils] Loaded...
[Poison Ivy] Loaded.
[Flowers] Loaded.
[Mod] Along the Shore [0.0.4] [along_shore] Loaded...
[Plants] Loaded!
[Mod] Inventory Tweak _loaded
[Mod] Cave Stuff [0.0.3] [cavestuff] Loaded...
[OK] Mesecons
Pipeworks loaded!
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA ===========
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua:
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...ik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua:160: attempt to index global 'pipeworks' (a nil value)
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...ik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua:160: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'dofile'
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...awik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/HV/init.lua:7: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'dofile'
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ...e/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/machines/init.lua:8: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'dofile'
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua:35: in main chunk
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ======= END OF ERROR FROM LUA ========
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: Server: Failed to load and run /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua
18:53:00: ERROR[main]: ModError: ModError: Failed to load and run /home/sawik/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua
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It looks like technic loads itself before pipeworks...

I am not anywhere near an expert at lua.. but it looks like pipeworks was loaded before technic due to the 'pipeworks loaded' line before the error line.

A quick text search of the quarry file on the git version I downloaded a few days ago comes up with 3 references to pipeworks:

recipe = { {"default:steelblock", "pipeworks:filter",

local tube_item = pipeworks.tube_item(vector.new(pos), item)

meta:set_string("owner", placer:get_player_name()) pipeworks.scan_for_tube_objects(pos)


I would check that the item 'pipeworks:filter' exists (was defined as existing anyways) in order to eliminate that line as a suspect.

Next I would check that the tube.item line had properly defined the tube name (Older versions of technic used old tube_000000 instead of tube_1 naming convention apparently)

then I would look for the scan_for_tube_objects function (I am assuming it is a function that is defined somewhere) to ensure no accidental misspellings have happened to make the function name different.

I may be way off on this.. but at least it is where I would look.

Peace
UOAbigail

[Topywo]

ShadowNinja, the debug.txt ERRORS are in the spoiler of post 727.

I unzipped and enabled the latest technic, pipeworks, mesecons, moreores and moreblocks. Although missing some texture files, technic loaded. I use a 19 March 2014 minetest version.

My advice is to update the mods, and if you already have the latest, try to update to the latest minetest-dev version (github).

(You wrote your using Minetest 4.9 provided in debian testing repo. Maybe that one doesn't work with the latest technic and pipeworks.)


If it perhaps is the loading order of mods. There have been post about that (also recently) but I've not found them yet.

[sawik]

Thanks for quick answers! :)

Updating mesecons and pipeworks solved the problem :)

[JPRuehmann]

Hello

I have tons of the following error messeg what can I do?

ore node 'technic:uranium_mineral' not defined

Thanks,
JPR

[gsmanners]

If you're getting not defined messages, it's probably because you didn't activate the whole modpack. You need to include stuff like technic_worldgen as well as technic and the other mods included.

[JPRuehmann]

Hello

Everything but the worldgen is active. If I activate the worldgen nothing changes I still get tons of the error.

ERROR[ServerThread]: Ore::resolveNodeNames: ore node 'technic:uranium_mineral' not definedOre::resolveNodeNames: ore node 'technic:uranium_mineral'

Thanks,

[UOAbigail]

Greetings ;)

Hello

Everything but the worldgen is active. If I activate the worldgen nothing changes I still get tons of the error.

ERROR[ServerThread]: Ore::resolveNodeNames: ore node 'technic:uranium_mineral' not definedOre::resolveNodeNames: ore node 'technic:uranium_mineral'

Thanks,

If you have the latest git version of technic.. at least as of about the 14th of March, which I believe is the one I have, if you open the oregen.lua file.. right at the top is the following:

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minetest.register_ore({
    ore_type       = "scatter",
    ore            = "technic:mineral_uranium",
    wherein        = "default:stone",
    clust_scarcity = 10*10*10,
    clust_num_ores = 4,
    clust_size     = 3,
    height_min     = -300,
    height_max     = -80,
})


note.. it says technic:mineral_uranium within the code and not technic:uranium_mineral

then.. in nodes.lua, it has the following:

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minetest.register_node( ":technic:mineral_uranium", {
    description = "Uranium Ore",
    tiles = { "default_stone.png^technic_mineral_uranium.png" },
    is_ground_content = true,
    groups = {cracky=3},
    sounds = default.node_sound_stone_defaults(),
    drop = 'craft "technic:uranium" 1',
})


also says technic:mineral_uranium anot not technic:uranium_mineral.

check those 2 files on your copy and see if they both match. I would suggest that if they do not both match.. change them to match.. *or* optionally, copy each segment of code and paste it back in as an additional section of code and make 1 set of them say technic:mineral_uranium and the other say technic:uranium_mineral.

This might resolve your error... however, if the second method is chosen (making additional nore/ore register) you will have 2x the number of uranium spawns.

Hope this helps.

Peace
UOAbigail

*edited to remove additional erroneous comment on my part.. both nodes, if defined, would drop the same ore and not different ore.

[JPRuehmann]

Hello

@UOAbigail
I cecked the two files they are as you posted

but where the technik:uranium_mineral comes from?

Thanks,
JPR

[JPRuehmann]

Hello, I have found it.

displayblocks/technic.lua
Row 10 and 21
change technic:uranium_mineral to technic:mineral_uranium

now it works.
Thanks,
JPR

[gsmanners]

What's to become of this now that moreores is basically stallled? I don't want to include moreores in my game if nobody's working on it, but it would be nice to at least have tin, and then maybe make silver and mithril strictly optional.

Is frames a thing? Because windmills are kind of meh for me, but it would be nice to have some alternative mv generators. Maybe I could work on a oil barrel mod, but then we'd have to have oil in mapgen or something like that. Hmm...

Speaking of generators, do we really need a diamond to make a water mill? That seems kind of expensive to me. Maybe something like steel gears would suffice for that. I don't know, but it seems kind of pointless to use a water mill as it is (I mean, unless you have some strong aversion to lava).

EDIT: I went ahead and did up a lite version of moreores. Let me know what you all think.

Here are some caveats:

Some more caveats about Technic:

- In technic/technic/machines/LV/electric_furnace.lua

The recipe has a couple of fixes needed:

--> output = 'technic:lv_electric_furnace',
--> 'default:copper_ingot'

- The grinder.lua is missing a prefix:

--> output = 'technic:lv_grinder',

- technic/technic/machines/other/init.lua

The frames.lua thing seems kind of iffy to me:

--if minetest.get_modpath("mesecons_mvps") ~= nil then
-- dofile(path.."/frames.lua")
--end

- In technic/technic/machines/register/alloy_furnace.lua

One reference to "moreores:bronze_ingot" --> "default:bronze_ingot".

- In technic/technic/tools/mining_drill.lua

One reference to "moreores:copper_ingot" --> "default:copper_ingot"

- In grinder_recipes.lua

Texture errors occur when doing the string of "register_dust" functions. Those really need to check for whether glooptest and moreores are installed. For moreores-lite, you'll need to remove the reference to mithril and silver.

- In technic/technic/textures

blank.png is missing

- In technic/technic_chests/gold_chest.lua

The recipe uses silver_chest, which I removed from the lite version of moreores, so that would present a problem.

- Batteries should be stackable in their uncharged form to reduce the pain of crafting things like mv battboxes or hv battboxes. Charging the battery would then involve changing the item from a craft item to a tool (somehow).

[Sokomine]

A light version of technic has also been asked for for some time and would be nice to have. Just the basic machines, no mod dependencies, no quarrys.

[sawik]

But I would have another request - autofarming -> for example a machine which would "dig" plants like player does and another which would plant the seeds? With mese sandtube prom pipeworks mod it would be a nice combination :)

Sorry if someone else proposed it earlier ;)

[gsmanners]

I second the idea for the auto harvester. If I could pipe that into a grinder and make biomass for a specialized generator, that might be a perfect low-cost mv solution (for those who don't mind the extra time and effort, of course).

[ShadowNinja]

I have a request: auto farming. For example a machine which would "dig" plants like player does and another which would plant the seeds.

Try using the node breaker and deployer from pipeworks.

[gsmanners]

Wow. Node breaker on each piece of wheat? That would be one heckofa expensive harvester.

Oh, wait. How about a node breaker on piston tape? Would that even work? I can kind of visualize it, but I don't know.

[RealBadAngel]

Wow. Node breaker on each piece of wheat? That would be one heckofa expensive harvester.

Oh, wait. How about a node breaker on piston tape? Would that even work? I can kind of visualize it, but I don't know.

from mc, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-oTraB_6cA

[gsmanners]

I was thinking along these lines: http://ftbwiki.org/Harvester

Technic is probably more about industry, I guess, than forestry. Maybe pipeworks can do something like that.

What would really cool is something like a Thermal Centrifuge (I think http://ftbwiki.org/Industrial_Centrifuge but with the recipe on http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Recipes_and_Resources or something like that).

[sawik]

Maybe You are right. Still It will be awesome :) Also Idea of biomass energy generator is interesting & this belongs definitely to technic...

[gsmanners]

Biomass is all kinds of complicated, though. It goes a little into forestry, beekeeping, and every kind of pipes and wiring you can imagine. Would be heck in a handbasket trying to get it all debugged.

[gsmanners]

I just want to add that nuclear power is awesome. I just wish that I could get it to power up my MV battboxes, though. I ain't crazy enough to make a HV battbox (5 MV battboxes = tons of batts, which is a whole heap of work in the workbench even with automation).

[IthegeekRS]

My stuff wont power on even if its connected... Using technic_game with no extra mods. :(

[Excalibur Zero]

My stuff wont power on even if its connected... Using technic_game with no extra mods. :(

Have you seen this video on how to setup technic machines?

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8UidoUCmsU