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prestidigitator wrote:Reviewing the mod code, it appears a bit too hard-coded to benefit much from changes like this anyway. I've submitted a pull request to the "Farming Redo" mod instead. Have a look at that for an example of how this can be done if you like, but otherwise I'm good with your, "discussion is closed."

Mostly due to the fact that each plant behaves different - either they're 2-block high plants, the melon's grow sideways, beans require to be planted on beanpoles... yes. The main damage ABM is a single routine, I think it could still be done, but it won't be easy. The farming redo mod patch also makes that clear... it's not trivial code.

Hybrid Dog wrote:

sofar wrote:

Hybrid Dog wrote:usually you can't see water as blue circles and withering doesn't make smoke

Sorry, what is your point? Are you suggesting a change? If so, what change do you suggest?

l would like that the soil node which is too wet becomes a node with a mud texture. Particles sadly can't use transparency as far as l know.

l just saw that particles use texture alpha. So maybe dark brown semi transparent particles can be used to make the soil node look wet.

HybridDog just added watercan filling sounds, some code cleanups and the ability to fill the watering can in river water. Thanks HybridDog!

sofar wrote:

Hybrid Dog wrote:May you call the melon "red_watermelon" instead of just "melon" because a lot sorts of melons exist.

Not inclined to do so.

If I was designing extra-extra-custom-flavor-plus-plus (you get the idea) crops then I would do so. But I'm designing a very basic set of farm crops.

There's no problem with other crop/farming modules, since you can have several melon mods with identical node names concurrently on the same server.

How about adding the sort of the watermelon to the description, e.g. "Melitopolski watermelon" and "Tom Watson watermelon"?
There's another brighter watermelon viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9019

Thanks cool Mod, makes farming more fun and the gardens look much better. ^_^

I need to try this out.

I have three farming mods so far- farming plus, docfarming and jkfarming.

I wish all three supported your watering model.

It's really interesting!

I'll have to see what I can learn from the code.

:)

Pumpkins!



Since it's almost thanksgiving, here's some pumpkins, and as usual, with a twist. In itself the pumpkins behave like you expect - digging them yields a block, not slices. You can get seeds from a block, or cook a block into roast pumpkin, which is edible.

The catch is that there's only one piece of food from a pumpkin so it's a lot of work. And if you want to expand your pumpkin farm, you'll have to water as otherwise the plants die and will not spawn more than 1 pumpkin if you're unlucky, so it's going to be difficult and labor intensive to grow a large pumpkin farm.

So yeah, maybe just grow pumpkins once a year for some holiday cheer, like some countries do, and then back to taters, cuz they easy.

May you add a specific sort of the pumpkin's name?
l'm using the farming_plus mod which also adds a pumpkin and l would like to be able to get a difference between them. Your ones have those dark stripes…

Added "flies" around dead plants, and fly sounds.



If plants die, they will have little flies buzzing around them, and you can hear a buzzing sound. I'm sure that will make some players itch!

Noooo! I don't know where to get a bugspray mod! How will I cope with those flies?

swordpaint12 wrote:Noooo! I don't know where to get a bugspray mod! How will I cope with those flies?

Flies and buzzing sounds are only generated when the plant dies, but stop shortly thereafter, so there is nothing that a player has to do, really, about them.

Is there a way to have this tie into the mapgen?

benrob0329 wrote:Is there a way to have this tie into the mapgen?

I started this, as I have a far better understanding of minetest's mapgen methods right now.

What's done so far is:

- wild pumpkin and melon plants can be found rarely in some places. They're in odd places, and when you look for them, you likely won't find any pumpkins or melons, just the plants. However, wait for it to grow and you can take a seed from the fruit.

- digging dirt may randomly drop a potato.

I have not found a nice way to introduce beans and corn or tomatoes, just yet. Ideas welcome.

sofar wrote:Ideas welcome.

If the exchange shops mod is installed, generate admin exchange shops where you can buy parcelled seeds

Just an idea (it will maybe be too easy): add a generic "vegetation" node that spawns quite rarely and looks like grass with some flowers.
Let the user dig those and collect generic "vegetation" seeds.

Then the player should plant those seeds in wet soil and in dense patches. And maybe one tomatoes, corn or beans plant will start growing from that patch.

The difficulty can be controlled via the number of spawned vegetation nodes, number of seeds drop, size of the patch (or even shape), and probability that a certain type of plant grows from there.

Is this is not clear enough, let me know :)

oleastre wrote:Just an idea (it will maybe be too easy): add a generic "vegetation" node that spawns quite rarely and looks like grass with some flowers.
Let the user dig those and collect generic "vegetation" seeds.

Good idea. That way you won't know which kind of seed you got. It might be a generic seed in the inventory and just develop into something that can be farmed after you planted it for the first time. After all most food plants did not just pop up but where bred.

Thanks to bashterm, a newcomer, crops' humidity model can now be entirely disabled, making crops a classic faming mod. Currently I've made it so that the `easy` setting level disables it. Thanks bashterm!

Hybrid Dog wrote:

sofar wrote:Ideas welcome.

If the exchange shops mod is installed, generate admin exchange shops where you can buy parcelled seeds

Is this mod even used/maintained?

if not this could be one good reason to use it :-D

sofar wrote:Similarly, farming_plus implements "potato seeds" which is ridiculous.

No, it's not. You can grow potatoes also from seeds and saplings

I like the idea of this mod, but I'm still a little bit confused how it works. A little tutorial may be helpfull

I also have some suggestions.

Some plants grow better on fertile soil. To get fertile soil you can put some "green waste" and dirt into a compost bin to get compost. Use this compost instead of dirt. This increases the yield and may reduce the need for water.

Tomatoes also need some support like a beanpole

Some medieval compatible suggestione for crops are: onions, garlic, peas, beets, cabbage, lettuce, carrots, strawberrys, pears and plums.

Also more recipes would be nice like sauerkraut made of cabbage and salt in a special pot

l recently saw exchange shops at Gabo server

Corn has ancestory in grasses, particularly, a Mexican grass called teosinte. Would it be possible or appropriate to add a chance for tall grass to drop corn kernel seeds? Thank you btw for making this mod fit so well alongside the default game.

The animations are strange.

AnxiousInfusion wrote:Corn has ancestory in grasses, particularly, a Mexican grass called teosinte. Would it be possible or appropriate to add a chance for tall grass to drop corn kernel seeds? Thank you btw for making this mod fit so well alongside the default game.

This wouldn't be too hard to do with `minetest.override_item()`. You just have to modify the `drop` table to include another item. I'm not inclined to include it by default, though.

pithy wrote:The animations are strange.

I'm assuming this is a compliment. If it isn't, I can't do anything with this information. (also, there are no animations in the mod).

I'm sooooo excited to try this with my students! We need more challenge in the survival world and I think this is perfect. Thank you for your hard work!

The best farming mod can only get better. I like AnxiousInfusion's idea about corn from grass, perhaps with a very low probability. It's important, I believe, to have a way in-game of obtaining all seeds without "cheats".

Ps. Perhaps all crops could be growing in select areas depending on biome attributes such as humidity? One could find them sporadically, where it's rare but still possible.

This might be hard to do but maybe even some biomes the land isn't fertile and you can't grow crops.

thi mod is awesome!