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Krock wrote:

KCoombes wrote:could the build be the problem?

Better sue Trump for this problem because it has absolutely nothing to do with the build.
Your error log tells me that it can't find the xpanes API function. If there is a copy of xpanes in your mods directory, remove it. Then also remove the subgame minetest_game and re-download it.

Ok, fresh copy of Minetest_game installed, xpanes removed - now this error:

wat is your minetest conf?

KCoombes, I got the same default mapgen error using the stable build,
I had to update to the latest dev version of the MT engine to get past it.

don't remove the xpanes mod, xdecor wont be available ingame.
just make sure you don't have a duplicate of xpanes in your common mods folder

Yep, that fixed it, although I did remove xpanes from the mods folder, as it is included in minetest_game/mods already.

and your mineteste.conf is perfectly normal :D

Expected to see a lightweight decoration mod. Was disappointed. Your mod is anything BUT “lightweight”:
- Full blown chess game (WTF?)
- Very heavyweight gameplay changes: Enchantment table, Ender chest (jeez, please try to avoid Minecraft slang), Work bench, apparently even a mechanism system which I don't understand yet (sadly, there is no manual)
- Crafting guide
- Beehive?!

Don't get me wrong: This mod includes many great gameplay ideas and has a couple of nice-looking and simple new decorations. I like the style. But for people who just want the decorations they do not neccessarily want the gameplay stuff as well.

The formspec design you used throughout the is great. It is simple to use and well-designed. This is how formspecs should generally be done. I appreciate the effort you put into these because I know how much a pain in the ass it is to only get a single form to work with all widgets aligned properly, etc.

About the mod design:
I suggest to strictly seperate the functional part from the decorational part, except for the things which change gameplay insignificantly.
I would especially like to see the crafting guide in a seperate mod. Looks like a nice rework of zcg to me. It's not as useful as Unified Inventory but still better than nothing. Why does the arrow go into the wrong direction? ;-)

I see you already released the workbench mod seperately, but for some reason you still have included it in xdecor. :-(

There's a serious bug in this mod: You used paramtype="light" for many nodes, even “solid” ones. I bet you misunderstood what this paramtype means. A side-effect of this is that it will cause light to propagate THROUGH the node, so if you place a torch behind a stone tile (for example), it glows! I am sure this is not intended. You need this paramtype for nodeboxes usually but for normal cubes you should only use this paramtype if you really want light to go through (like for leaves or glass). First I thought this attribute is only set for the runestone (this is actually pretty interesting and worth keeping) but after a quick check I notice this is set for pretty much every node.

As i know the developer of this mod "JP" left the minetest.
There is also seperated crafting guide viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14088

This is the best mod ever, and is perfect in every way.

That said, I always wondered why light behind stone tiles was so bright. Ha!

This mod was transferred over to minetest-mods organization on GitHub, headed by sofar. You'd do well to submit PRs there, I think. You raise fine points, though I'd never been bothered by simply commenting out certain dofile() lines.

Cheers.

indeed jp made standalone versions of some of the xdecor mods
such as the Work Bench, Enchanting and as stated before the Crafting Guide.
.....and when he began it was pretty lightweight; but then again compared to Home Decor plus More Blocks...

This is truly a great mod, nice extras like the enchanting table and the crafting book included. My kids and me favour this mod over unified_inventory and home-decor now for several reasons and are having great fun in a multi-player world.

This is mod like the Home Decor ModPack

Andrey01 wrote:This is mod like the Home Decor ModPack

home-decor has neither the enchanting table nor the crafting book. In x-decor the textures are more pretty aligned with the minetest default look.

The concept of a special book item as crafting guide in x-decor is charming and well thought. The mod unified_inventory includes a crafting guide in the interface but this gives not the same feeling in the game like a true book item.

My five cents.

I like this mod, no problems with it. It suits people who likes MC.

I will give some remarks about the graphics used in this mod:

Personally I really like the decorations, they are cool and lightweight. Sadly, this mod breaks with the style of Minetest Game by not using Minetest Game's style but PixelBOX' style. Many nodes of Minetest Game simply look inconsistent with the X-Decor nodes. So I ultimately ended up in not really using this mod. :-(

Just compare the Minetest Game wooden door with the doors from xdecor. These are completely different artistic styles. The same could be said for many other nodes. I suppose this problem is solved when the player is actually switching to the PixelBOX style. But this is a bad solution, of course.

IMO using PixelBOX style is a design flaw. The problem is, this can't be fixed easily by texture packs, because a texture pack for “default” textures does not really make sense IMO. I kinda see the “default” textures as a pseudo-texture pack of its own, so trying to keep at least some artistic consistency makes sense.

What would have made more sense would be to use the Minetest Game style in this mod, and then moving the current PixelBOX-styled textures to the actual PixelBOX texture pack.
I think a lesson modders can learn from here: Try to stick with the style of the subgame (if any) you wish to extend and put artistic variations into texture packs. Not the other way round. ;-)

Fixerol wrote:I like this mod, no problems with it. It suits people who likes MC.

I've never played MC, but I've always loved this mod.

Wuzzy wrote:Sadly, this mod breaks with the style of Minetest Game by not using Minetest Game's style but PixelBOX' style.

I have always considered X-Decor to be relatively inline with MTG, and even minetest_game uses textures from PixelBOX.

As an example:


I just noticed that xdecor:multishelf and xdecor:empty_shelf do not follow the recently changed shelves of MTG, with wood on sides, but instead the old style of "impossible shelves."

snoopy wrote:

Andrey01 wrote:This is mod like the Home Decor ModPack

home-decor has neither the enchanting table nor the crafting book. In x-decor the textures are more pretty aligned with the minetest default look.

The concept of a special book item as crafting guide in x-decor is charming and well thought. The mod unified_inventory includes a crafting guide in the interface but this gives not the same feeling in the game like a true book item.

My five cents.

Crafting guide it can search in the HomeDecor in the first post.And X-decor mod is it just copy of the HomeDecor(for example:like television, carpets, doors, curtains, tables and others), and he first is done than X-decor

There are a number of differences, but I think the main one is that homedecor is a modpack, which contains a mod called homedecor. Even then, the homedecor mod itself, I believe, contains meshnodes.

Will this mod ever get new stuff or not

This mod fails to set is_ground_content correctly for most nodes. For most nodes it is true, which means the cave generator can destroy these nodes. For “artificial” nodes like windows this field should generally be set to false.

See what happens when a mod fails to set is_ground_content correctly:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15891

Okay, I stumbled over a recent commit message in this mod. It now uses the "colorize" function, which was added in newer in-development versions.

This means: The current version will NOT work with 0.4.14-stable anymore, get the last compatible version instead if you do not want to update.


Looks fancy, eh.

Hi, interesting thread ! Thanks for this mod i like very much. I'm here because i don't understand how the cauldron work. I put water inside and it bowling. But after that, impossible to drop some foods inside...
Maybe i forget a conf file ? I use the farming mod by Tenplus1.
Could someone explain me what happens ? I'm quite new in maintaining a server :)

ohhh i dint know there was another xdector, i made a mod called xdector opps

Well, thank you kilbith to explain me in live ! it's not difficult to put ingredients. Just drop'em looking a little bit up.

Players have detected a problem: when sitting on a chair, and jump+go, the player goes up without stopping. They have to disconect and reconect, and it'll be fatal in some cases...
I deactivate the possibility to sit, but i think it's pity :( i like very well the possibility of sitting

That sucks. That has happened to me with the vehicle mods, where I want to turn a car or let's just say a tank, and it will keep going straight. The helicopter mod sucked too because I could never get out of the dang thing.