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by **Temperest** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 23:52

Please ensure you are using WorldEdit 1.0 or later, it should work regardless of whether blocks are loaded. Note that this requires Minetest 0.4.8 or later.

Also, if you're already using the latest version, please post the schematic here, and I'll take a look!

by **Slider-Override** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:35

Hi All, is there a way to remove Blocks ?

my plan is to clear a big area.

is see no way, only move it down :-(

by **sfan5** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:15

Slider-Override wrote:Hi All, is there a way to remove Blocks ?

my plan is to clear a big area.

is see no way, only move it down :-(

//set air

by **Morn76** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 22:59

How can I reliably remove bright or dark areas left by WorldEdit commands? "//fixlight" never seems to fix anything for me, even if it claims updated nodes.

Putting a big hovering dirt block over the whole area, then replacing it with air eliminates shadows sometimes, but not always. I would like to know a solution that works all the time.

[img=Shadow example]http://home.arcor.de/mdoege/minetest/worldedit_shadow.jpg[/img]

by **qwrwed** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 23:53

When I need to clear an area with WorldEdit, I set it to default:water_flowing instead of air, which lets the light update naturally. I don't know if this could fix your problem, but it will probably prevent it in the future.

by **Morn76** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 00:23

I'm trying to create an ocean, so what I do (with the world restored from backup) is to move the terrain downward ("//move y -15"), followed by replacing air with water_source. If I use "//replace air water_flowing" instead, I get much smaller shadowy areas, so your suggestion seems to be an improvement. The weird thing is that the shadows also occur outside the selected region.

by **PenguinDad** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 16:22

WorldEdit crashes when using //fixlight and //hide
Error message: http://ur1.ca/guvsg

by **Temperest** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 18:29

Oops, fixed that in 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470.

by **tele** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:23

Sorry I use also fedora and I have also problem with shadow

I use Minetest 0.4.9 from Fedora 20 , 64bit
and I have the same problem.
I added Uberi-Minetest-WorldEdit-2784a25 mod
I created a new figure piramid , cylinder and other need figures ,
Some command not working, some mods also not working
example
Failed to load and run
/home/gg/minetest/mods/maptools-master/init.lua
/home/gg/minetest/mods/smartfs-master/init.lua

I used tnt from Nuke mod to remove unnecessary blocks.
I created new land, I had to write //yes or to //no because I had warning I edit a lot of blocks.
I created land ( Dirt ) , one , second and I have bug with shadows.
and now around me are the pieces of shadows. :(

//light command not found

what it is 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470 ??

Oops, fixed that in 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470.

From terminal

Your phone or window isn't wide enough to display the code box. If it's a phone, try rotating it to landscape mode.

Code: Select all: $ minetest Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1 Linux 3.13.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Mar 7 17:02:28 UTC 2014 x86_64 Creating X window... Using renderer: OpenGL 4.4.0 GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. Dedicated video memory (kB): 2097152 Total video memory (kB): 2097152 Available video memory (kB): 2038252 GLSL version: 4.4 [MOD] WorldEdit loaded! 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: .__ __ __ 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: _____ |__| ____ _____/ |_ ____ _______/ |_ 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: / \| |/ \_/ __ \ __\/ __ \ / ___/\ __\ 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: | Y Y \ | | \ ___/| | \ ___/ \___ \ | | 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: |__|_| /__|___| /\___ >__| \___ >____ > |__| 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: World at [/home/gg/.minetest/worlds/Tele] 13:25:57: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on port 30000. 13:25:57: ACTION[ServerThread]: announcing to servers.minetest.net 13:25:57: ACTION[ServerThread]: Tele [127.0.0.1] joins game. List of players: Tele Could not open file of texture: character.png Time to load ascii X file: 5ms Loaded mesh: character.x PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: Interlace handling should be turned on when using png_read_image PNG warning: Interlace handling should be turned on when using png_read_image PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile Loaded texture: /usr/share/minetest/textures/base/pack/sunrisebg.png Font size: 8 15

When I use option in invertory "Fix Lighting"
I don't have errors , but this for me not working :(
This can be problem with lua ?

minetest --info
http://pastebin.com/P7FsKNxH

I play with creativ mode, Server .

List of my mods · by **PilzAdam** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:26

tele wrote:what it is 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470 ??
Oops, fixed that in 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470.

Its a commit hash: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/commit/2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470

by **tele** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 14:30

I see "set nodes " example dirt , and I use tnt to remove dirt blocks fix my problem with shadows,
To remove blocks in world edit should be option "Clear Objects" ?
because for me not working and I'm not sure what this do.

by **Morn76** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 14:46

You can remove blocks with "//set air".

To fix the shadow problem, I simply do my terraforming in smaller pieces horizontally now. I've also converted my world to LevelDB which appears to help too because terrain loading is less laggy. WorldEdit shadows always seem to appear in areas far from the player that have not updated properly. Usually if you fly towars the shadow areas quickly (with LevelDB), that triggers a lighting update and the shadows disappear.

"Fix lighting" OTOH never seems to fix anything at all.

by **tele** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 15:07

You can remove blocks with "//set air".

Very thanks :D this working,
I mark the area of the air above the ground, so high and shadow no exist,
I wrote "//set air" and shadows at the marked spot, disappeared.

I have "ugly" shadows in places where I edit or move blocks to up.
Now I can more safely remove them, thanks :)

by **Temperest** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:18

tele wrote:Sorry I use also fedora and I have also problem with shadow

Some command not working, some mods also not working
example
Failed to load and run
/home/gg/minetest/mods/maptools-master/init.lua
/home/gg/minetest/mods/smartfs-master/init.lua

I used tnt from Nuke mod to remove unnecessary blocks.
I created new land, I had to write //yes or to //no because I had warning I edit a lot of blocks.
I created land ( Dirt ) , one , second and I have bug with shadows.
and now around me are the pieces of shadows. :(

//light command not found

what it is 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470 ??
Oops, fixed that in 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470.

When I use option in invertory "Fix Lighting"
I don't have errors , but this for me not working :(
This can be problem with lua ?

Yes, //light is not a command. WorldEdit for Minetest is not affiliated with the WorldEdit for Minecraft project, and both projects use different commands for different functionality.

I recommend reading the README note about chat commands and the GUI. You don't seem to need the tutorial, but the chat command reference is worth checking out, especially if you're used to Minecraft's WE.

Which commands are not working (remember that the commands are different from Minecraft)? The other mods that are not working seem unrelated to WorldEdit - you probably want to contact the authors of those mods about that.

By the way, 2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470 is a commit hash and denotes a particular set of changes I made to the code. You can view the details at https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/commit/2784a25561be45894d2a138828013c96f387d470.

//fixlight is meant to fix a very specific issue that occurs due to an engine bug in Minetest, where sunlight does not get propagated downwards. It does not and is not supposed to do anything else.

tele wrote:I see "set nodes " example dirt , and I use tnt to remove dirt blocks fix my problem with shadows,
To remove blocks in world edit should be option "Clear Objects" ?
because for me not working and I'm not sure what this do.

//clearobjects (that Clear Objects button) is meant to remove entities in the WorldEdit region, not remove nodes. Again, all this is documented in the chat command reference.

by **Morn76** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:34

Temperest wrote://fixlight is meant to fix a very specific issue that occurs due to an engine bug in Minetest, where sunlight does not get propagated downwards. It does not and is not supposed to do anything else.

It doesn't work. I tried to get rid of the shadows you see in the screenshot below with //fixlight but nothing changed.

by **spillz** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:49

I had a related issue. I cleared out an underground area in WE by setting nodes to air, then laid down some mine track that connected up to track above ground. Then I jumped in a mine cart and rode down. As soon as I hit the cleared out area, my view goes black and i couldn't move or get out. The only way to fix was to add solid nodes above the track then delete them manually.

by **Krock** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 19:55

Morn76 wrote:It doesn't work. I tried to get rid of the shadows you see in the screenshot below with //fixlight but nothing changed.

I know that problem from my server. Fixlight doesn't work anytime.
1) set //pos1 and //pos2 in the dark area (somewhere)
2) //set default:dirt
3) //unmark
4) horray

by **Morn76** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 20:13

Krock wrote:
Morn76 wrote:It doesn't work. I tried to get rid of the shadows you see in the screenshot below with //fixlight but nothing changed.

I know that problem from my server. Fixlight doesn't work anytime.
1) set //pos1 and //pos2 in the dark area (somewhere)
2) //set default:dirt
3) //unmark
4) horray

This method too sometimes fails: Because occasionally the weird shadow will appear on top of the added dirt block. Remove the dirt block and the shadow will be back on the ground. :-(

by **tele** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 06:40

Morn76 wrote:
Krock wrote:
Morn76 wrote:It doesn't work. I tried to get rid of the shadows you see in the screenshot below with //fixlight but nothing changed.

I know that problem from my server. Fixlight doesn't work anytime.
1) set //pos1 and //pos2 in the dark area (somewhere)
2) //set default:dirt
3) //unmark
4) horray

This method too sometimes fails: Because occasionally the weird shadow will appear on top of the added dirt block. Remove the dirt block and the shadow will be back on the ground. :-(

I can tell you more ...
It's something is in the air, this causes shadows, but you and I can not see them.

- First we need find area in air where it is not visible something that causes shadows.
( To find this area I use dirt blocks, I build pole/column in the shade so high, as the block dirt on top will light )
- Next you can mark this area and remove with //set air or 2) //set default:dirt.
( I mark light block at the top, and second point at the second end of the shade at the bottom )

Yesterday, I built a ditch to the river, I deepened ditch gradually and I noticed,
shadow runs away from me to the second end of the ditch,
Morn76 said

... WorldEdit shadows always seem to appear in areas far from the player that have not updated properly.

This looks something like this.
( however I have new Hardware i5 intel Nvidia GTX 660 with driver nvidia 331.49 in 64bit Fedora 20 )

by **Morn76** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 09:50

tele wrote:mom76 said

No no no! It's "Morn". This breathtakingly handsome and eloquent guy below. Doesn't anyone remember Star Trek: Deep Space 9? Sigh. Kids today, no pop culture knowledge at all. :-)

by **tele** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:18

Upss, sorry! I edited it now.

by **Achilles** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 09:06

Nice mod... Only problem is that it can be used for mass grieving as it was recently in a couple of servers when hacked clients managed to flood spawn and areas around it with 100*100*100 blocks of water.

by **sfan5** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 09:30

You obviously aren't supposed to give untrusted persons WorldEdit privileges.

by **Achilles** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 09:39

True... But they didn't have they privilege... Only the 3 admins had the WorldEdit Privs on 1 server which a client hacked to gain the priv and used it grieve spawn... It has happened on quite a few servers now...

by **CWz** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 09:42

maybe there hacked clients have built-in worldedit?

by **Achilles** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 09:45

I don't know if that is possible...

by **Achilles** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 09:49

An admin has to grant a priv to a person for them to be able to use it, or a client would have to hack the server to gain it. Not sure tho as I don't own a server nor do I manage one :)

by **sfan5** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:30

Actual hacking is very hard and has a very small success rate.
Modified clients can place nodes everywhere , but only in their range.
It is also not possible to create items out of thin air.

by **Achilles** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:40

Yes I know... But I cannot think of any other solution as to how a client gained the WorldEdit priv

by **Achilles** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:41

...Unless they guessed an Admins password

unlikely :D

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