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by **Jeija** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 15:14

wat?
The button is already 3d if you mean that, 3d switch currently isnt possible that well.

by **Temperest** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 16:22

I think it would look pretty great something like this:

Side view (on):

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Side view (off):

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Front view (on)

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I haven't quite gotten the hang of node boxes yet, but I'll take a look at it in a bit if I can find the time to.

by **mikey2020** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 06:31

cool!mod!

by **scifiboi** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 21:31

I think you should have a battery that charges up while electricity is flowing to it and releases electricity when no power is flowing to it. Could charge up during the day with solar panels and power other things at night when there is no light. Probably just another stupid idea of mine, but hey, I think it's a good idea! :D Also, is there a way to remove a mesecon without using the WorldEdit mod?

by **toleaxus** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 21:50

i create my copy machine with this mod
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kfbct2yj16rf0bp
you need mesecond and this map
dont copy chests,furnances,pistons

by **Temperest** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 23:16

I'll fix that as soon as possible.

Unless anyone wants to keep it?

Thanks for catching that, toleaxus.

by **Temperest** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 03:49

Fixed in 64a452da244877496bc18378cfcb35f76d950feb.

Things to note:

Pistons can now push a maximum of 15 blocks. This is because it was far too powerful before and could cause either large amounts of lag or huge amounts of damage by griefers.
Pistons now remove liquid source blocks (like in Minecraft).
Fixed bugs in the node names ("default:water_source" rather than just "water").

by **bob** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 04:52

NOOOOOOOO! I took advantage of that glitch for a long time and made a factory to duplacate some blocks but now it won't work!!! WHY??? WHY???
Heres what i did:

The blinky plant kept pushing the piston duplacating the steel block and to get rid of blocks so the don't keep going forever i did this:

So it started duplacating the wood instead, then burning it!
Please put the glitch back!!!

by **Jeija** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:24

Just wondering if there are any feature requests? I think I can work a little on the mod again, maybe even something in C++

by **scifiboi** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:50

I said something up there about a battery. Don't know if you saw it or not, but I was just making sure.

by **Jeija** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:46

OK I will try that, just dunno what you could use it for. Could you make a simple texture for it and describe what it should look like? I could even do it with nodeboxes.
If the remove-mesecon bug still exists, I`ll also fix it.

(I saw a pull request that should fix it but the code was not what I wanted)
What nodes could I make in 3D? (No, I won`t do the switch)

by **nyancrafter** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 13:59

Hi there !
When I put a pressure plate or a mesecon, I can't delete them ! How am I able to do it ?

by **Jeija** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 14:22

Strange that works fine for me. Are you sure you use the latest GitHub of minetest and of mesecons?

by **nyancrafter** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 14:41

I'm using the latest nightly build (minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32.zip 17-Jun-2012 20:09 4.9M )
I think I'm using the latest mesecons version and I can't delete any pressure plates or use the Movestones

by **Jeija** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:02

This picture shows a draft of a new nodebox for the hydro turbine - I know that it looks totally strange and unlogical. I thought this would make it more clear to newbies that you have to put it BELOW flowing water.

Do you think I should push this or do you prefer the old one (normal block)? I guess the new one looked better with another texture.

Code: On Pastebin

by **Jordach** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:07

Keep it: looks awesome!

by **sfan5** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:29

Nice!

by **Jeija** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:30

Any textures?

by **Temperest** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:46

That's lovely, Jeija! I'm definitely in favor of the new one.

bob wrote:NOOOOOOOO! I took advantage of that glitch for a long time and made a factory to duplacate some blocks but now it won't work!!! WHY??? WHY???
Heres what i did:

The blinky plant kept pushing the piston duplacating the steel block and to get rid of blocks so the don't keep going forever i did this:

So it started duplacating the wood instead, then burning it!
Please put the glitch back!!!

That may be so, bob, but imagine what this glitch would do if everyone knew about it in a survival server. Immediately, MESE, iron, and all resources become worthless, since they can just be duplicated after you've found one.

If you still need this behavior, the nyanland mod has a duplicator block. This one does not break gameplay because it is not possible for normal players to get, so cannot be abused.

Also, the new piston behavior is more realistic. Real pistons can't push infinite amounts of blocks around with a limited amount of power...

I'll be working on a nodebox version of the pistons soon, so expect some better looking piston pushers!

by **Jeija** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:48

Temperest, I guess you have to make a node definition for each direction as the texture does not change when rotating the nodebox as far as I know.
Will push the water turbine soon.

by **VanessaE** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 16:32

Guess I'll have to get to work on new textures then ;-)

(when you're ready of course)

by **scifiboi** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 18:50

Jeija wrote:OK I will try that, just dunno what you could use it for. Could you make a simple texture for it and describe what it should look like? I could even do it with nodeboxes.
If the remove-mesecon bug still exists, I`ll also fix it.

(I saw a pull request that should fix it but the code was not what I wanted)
What nodes could I make in 3D? (No, I won`t do the switch)

I'm no artist but here is a zip file with the top, sides and bottom of what I would think the battery would look like. I would think it should look sort of like a car battery (just a standard cube). Like I said, I'm no artist, but here is the link to the files: http://www.host-a.net/u/scifiboi/BatteryTextures.zip

by **Temperest** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 20:37

Beautiful new nodebox pistons! See here: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/9736b0f61ea71d87707c7209326abf52a8d4eda9, pistons were completely reworked.

What do you think? Keep or throw?

by **VanessaE** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 20:47

KEEP!

by **Jeija** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 21:25

Looks pretty good!!!
Although this cannot be a permanent solution, an entity looking like a pusher would still be much better but currently not possible.
For some reason the game crashes for me when pushing a piston with a piston:

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Code: Select all: 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'place_node' 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: ...mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_pistons/init.lua:156: in function '?' 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: ...mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons/internal_api.lua:68: in function 'activate' 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: ...mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons/internal_api.lua:254: in function 'turnon' 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: ...mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons/internal_api.lua:264: in function 'turnon' 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: ...st_game/mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons/init.lua:176: in function 'receptor_on' 23:21:08: ERROR[main]: .../mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_switch/init.lua:33: in function 'callback'

I didn`t get into that error yet, maybe you know it already.
All in all: Good job!!

by **Jeija** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 21:37

Just found some more bugs, try pushing several different nodes with a piston, some of them turn into others or disappear...
You should work some more on the pistons.
Please use

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Code: Select all: function mesecon:mvps_push(pos, direction) -- pos: pos of mvps; direction: direction of push

in mesecon_mvps and maybe extend it to your needs (maximum nodes...)
Please adjust mesecons_movestones; it also uses mvps_push.

by **Temperest** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 01:38

I'll look into the issues you reported, but the error above comes from within MineTest, seemingly. env:place_node, apparently, is not fully supported in all situations.

mvps_push seems like just the thing I need, thanks.

Edit: here's the pull request fixing the issue: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/134.

Edit: confirmed the duplication and disappearing issue. Will investigate.

by **Temperest** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 02:17

Fixed! https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/aa8ad0fde97a8dcfcd51027dee65174dc830fbc5

Turns out minetest.env:place_node() is a no-op if the node is already there! I wish these smaller things were documented (if I can find the time to I'll redo the Lua API documentation somewhat).

by **Jeija** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 05:31

Well done, but did you really use mvps_push?

by **sfan5** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 06:18

Temperest wrote:Beautiful new nodebox pistons! See here: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/9736b0f61ea71d87707c7209326abf52a8d4eda9, pistons were completely reworked.

What do you think? Keep or throw?

Awesome

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