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Jeija, in seeing pressure pads, I was thinking of adding a "portable" button. Wall mounted. So would this be the proper code, or would I need to add something else to it?



(note: off version will be applied also. And I would need to make another rule set for the wall_button correct?)

Yeah, you should make another rule for that. Let me check that out in a few minutes... You should also use an on-state and an off-state button. Unfortunately the button won't look good :(, there is no special drawtype for it. You could use something like signs for example.

Jeija wrote:Yeah, you should make another rule for that. Let me check that out in a few minutes... You should also use an on-state and an off-state button. Unfortunately the button won't look good :(, there is no special drawtype for it. You could use something like signs for example.

There will be an on/off state, didn't you read the note at the end? XP

Why do you think the button won't look good? Because it has no special drawtype for it? And yeah, I would be using the sign drawtype.

It will be a 2d button. I guess it is better to use a global timer for stuff like this than using an abm, so that the time a button stays pressed is always the same.

Jeija wrote:It will be a 2d button. I guess it is better to use a global timer for stuff like this than using an abm, so that the time a button stays pressed is always the same.

I wasn't thinking of a timed button, more like a portable version of your switch. So its either on, or its off. Not giving it a short lifespan to generate power.

I think we need something like a button with a short span to generate power...

Alright. But I haven't worked with global timer yet, so I'd pretty but be blind shooting XD

Karol wrote:Unfortunately, Jeija, you didn't help. Let me show my problem in other way:

switch1----T
R----- out
switch2----T

,where switch1/2 are switches, Ts are transmitters, R are receivers, - is cable.
[…]

I had that problem when I tried to build a D-Flipflop, too.

You have to change the minetest.register_abm in line 1415… change every "wlre.requested_state==1" to a "wlre.requested_state>0"


And the function mesecon:wireless_transmit (line 1557) must be changed, too.



With that code you are able to build complex circuits consisting of wires, OR-, NOT- and NOR-gates.

You can build an AND-gate (A*B) with inverted inputs and a NOR-gate ( ¬(¬A + ¬B) )

Great work! I'm just not sure if I should keep the current system or implement yours. Maybe I will make a configuration option for this and set yours by default. Thx!

@Jeija:
I can't get the Mese-Torches working.
Maybe you should add the Torches how they are, but it's a bit ugly if you place a torch on a mesecon

oh I forgot to change senderstate==1 to senderstate>0

And other errors occur more often than usual: transmitters should be set to off before they are digged.

problems with mesecon in general:

And when an movestone or pistons move transmitters they must be set to off, too.

In general the circuits should be recomputed after movestone or piston moved stone, because that could affect circuits.

Maybe a register_on_move or something owuld be intersting.

And some ideas for new mesecno nodes/mods:

• a chest positioning first inventory item next to it if that node is air (directions similar to piston)

• object detectors on top of sings should only activate if player, which name is on the sign, is near to the detector

• movestone which moves up and down (and mabye move the player -> elevator)

I tried to modify the object detector in my own, but failed reading the sign text

In the end I wanna say thank you ... great mod. I built a castle with the help of pistons :D
And a drawbridge with movestones *_* (last time I turned it on, 2 movestones disappeared :O)

Baŝto wrote:And a drawbridge with movestones *_* (last time I turned it on, 2 movestones disappeared :O)

Happend to me too

Sorry, but I can't work that much on my mod in the next weeks. I will continue adding small bugfixes and small additional features. It would be awesome if someone helped me developing.

Jeija wrote:Sorry, but I can't work that much on my mod in the next weeks. I will continue adding small bugfixes and small additional features. It would be awesome if someone helped me developing.

You should make a Github/Gitorious/Bitbucket Repo for this Mod, so others can help you

Good idea:
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons
I just don't know much about git :(. Tell me if something is wrong...

i have sent you an email

Jeija wrote:Good idea:
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons
I just don't know much about git :(. Tell me if something is wrong...

If you add me as a Collaborator to the Repo I can commit my changes directly.
Just add "sfan5" under Mesecons-Repo->Admin->Collaborators

Done! Thanks for the request ^^

Jeija wrote:Done! Thanks for the request ^^

^^ I'll work on Buttons tomorrow.
And I have a solution for the Rotating-Switch Bug, you must keep the param2, then the Orientation is kept

I tried that and it didn't work. param2 of the button is nil :( Was there any update/patch for that?
By the way: Your mesecon torches are working, but i have to change some rules so that vertical ones work better.

Jeija wrote:I tried that and it didn't work. param2 of the button is nil :( Was there any update/patch for that?.

I'll try to get that working.

jeez, I can't wait for this mod to be done!! :D

edit. I could be testing soon..and I will make a calculator

Here's a screenshot showing usage of the inverter and sockets to make common logic gates (showing OR, XOR, AND, NOT, and a diode):



It needed a fix to my plugs and sockets that I'll be perfecting and posting tomorrow. In the meantime there is a bug in it so I would not use it for now.

@Jeija: I've looked at some other examples of delays, but as you can see if you are doing more complex circuits the propagation delay becomes more than a little noticable. I'll add it as a flag if you want though.

@Jordach: That sounds really interesting. If you like I would be willing to help with that. I've always wanted to try my hand at something more than an adder :).

For the adder: Make sure that the whole machine is in a close radius, like 30 blocks away. Unfortunately, if mesecon circuits are farer away, minetest doesn't simulate them.
@Temperest: Looks awesome! I can add you to git if you give me your name... Else, just post it here.

Jordach wrote:jeez, I can't wait for this mod to be done!! :D

edit. I could be testing soon..and I will make a calculator

You could use Mesecon Torches(i'm working on that)

Get the latest code from Github, sfan5. The rules are not working yet for some reason, but it should be a good starting point for you,..

Jeija wrote:Get the latest code from Github, sfan5. The rules are not working yet for some reason, but it should be a good starting point for you,..

I'll first work on Buttons ^^

Did some testing with pistons and wiring. If this does evolve, I could really make a nice dungeon with puzzles and death traps ^^

There are lots of possibilities in this mod... There are like 5 ways to do the same thing ^^ There are 3 different inverters eg. ;
I'm not sure if that is good or if an easy method with only a few parts (like in minecraft) was better...
I will try to implement Basto's code as soon as possible, I can also give you the permission to implement it on github if you want (Or anyone else can also implement it). Please just ask me for the permission on github here!!

@Sfan5: Would be awesome if you made a global timer for the buttons. Just set a requested state for each button and a time when the state will be changed. Try to save it in param1/2 or so. I would also need the global timer for your mesecon torches

I just want it to be finished so I can make some traps and challenges. I have an idea for a room, but it won't be possible until can find people to help me