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by **rinoux** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 22:57

this version work well for me, the DM are maybe a little easy to kill even with a empty hand...

by **dannydark** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 23:04

neko259 wrote:
sapier wrote:I've noticed the capital on originals too. I'll add an additional configuration parameter "name" automaticaly switched by language settings too. For now just changing the names would result in worlds with many unknown entities what i didn't want to do.

Name and description are different fields. Changing description won't do nothing to the world I think.

Yeh thats true, the Description field is only used for tooltips ^_^

by **sapier** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 23:05

by now they need 50 hits to die no matter what you are wearing is this to easy? Or do they need less hits than expected?

@neko259 Yes I know they are but by now name is set to description field too. Thats done because animals are created by a function that doesn't use different fields for name and description by now. I'll add this feature combined with a code reorganization and a translation support as soon as I have time to do it. This realease was primary intended to make animals work with new git release again ;-)

by **rinoux** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 23:33

sapier wrote:do they need less hits than expected?)

yes i "think" i kill a DM with around 10 hits... but i'm not certain... i'll retry.

by **randomproof** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 05:14

I don't know if anyone has suggested this yet or not, but it would be nice if the different animals or groups of animals were in mods or even just separate files so that there was an easy way to have some but not all. For example, say I just wanted farm animals and not fish.

by **neko259** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 07:36

Is it my bug or chicken top texture is missing? When I look at it from above, I see a blank selection box.

by **celeron55** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 08:53

randomproof wrote:I don't know if anyone has suggested this yet or not, but it would be nice if the different animals or groups of animals were in mods or even just separate files so that there was an easy way to have some but not all. For example, say I just wanted farm animals and not fish.

This mod is pretty vast and it probably should be split somehow. For starters, maybe create a "moblib" mod that only has a single purpose; providing a generic way of creating mobs. (Mobs = not-so-clever creatures that basically work as a resource but are alive and move around, and sometimes fight back. Basically all animals and monsters.)

It should not have any bias towards this mod and in the future it probably could be pulled upstream.

This mod should then be based on it, possibly also being split to different kinds of animals as you suggest. (not too many, but maybe eg. farm animals, wild animals and fantasy animals. And one that implements the minetest monsters.)

by **sapier** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 18:33

Ok I think it's time to write some design documentation, I'll add it to next release but want to answer some questions right now.

@randomproof as animals are just configuration sets this wouldn't be a problem at all. I already intended to use some configuration parameters.

@celeron
animals is not a implementation of cow,sheep, vampire dm etc but already designed as the modlib you are talking about.

A animal is added by creating a set of configuration parametes, drawing pictures and calling "animals_add_animal(parameterset)" on this.

Basicaly animals mod consists of following parts:
*Configurable movement generator
->flying
->jumping
->movement prediction
->position validation
->some predefined parametersets for movement generator
->...

*Harvest/Drop engine
->simple harvest delay
->animal transformation on harvest
->catching of animals

*Fighting engine
->short range attack
->long range attack

*management functions
->example parameter/graphics set of mobs

*spawn engine
->different spawn modes (not configurable by now)
->population density check

by **neko259** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:16

Also: I've captured a cow with lasso, and it turned to unknown item (I can't get rid of it now).

by **rinoux** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:38

It will be nice if the cow and the sheep "eat" (remove) the grass, flowers, mushrooms... !?

by **neko259** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:59

Creepers destroying houses (or they already do that?) and vampires stealing torches :3

by **sapier** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:04

@neko259
creepers already destroy houses ...

vampires stealing torches? I don't think thats a good idea, how to protect your home if torches aren't a protection anymore?

@rinoux
adding that features would add a dependency to the modules adding those items so i don't think it's going to be in animals anytime soon ...
but ... im currently doing a major code reorganization to make the modular design more obvious and fixing issunes that sometimes broke the modularizatin. So probably creating an addon mod enabling animals to do that will be possible soon.

by **sapier** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 18:47

Version 0.9.9 is out. In this Version there are very little lines of code that didn't get touched so please do a intense test. I've also added lots of documentation within code as well as separatly distributed in doc folder. But it's still far from complete.

@neko259 chicken top texture is really missing. I've used rinoux profile image as chicken (you probably already noticed that) Same problem is for fish too rinoux only provided a single view and I'm really bad in drawing.

by **dannydark** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 18:57

sapier wrote:Version 0.9.9 is out. In this Version there are very little lines of code that didn't get touched so please do a intense test. I've also added lots of documentation within code as well as separatly distributed in doc folder. But it's still far from complete.

@neko259 chicken top texture is really missing. I've used rinoux profile image as chicken (you probably already noticed that) Same problem is for fish too rinoux only provided a single view and I'm really bad in drawing.

+1 for new release ^_^ will test in a few mins

by **neko259** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 19:35

Chicken still misses top texture, everything else seems to work.
BTW, I've just seen a cow running from the ground to the deepest sea :) Maybe you have to restrict them from going to the deep waters?

by **rinoux** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 19:41

I'll do some graphics today... and testing of the new version.

by **neko259** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 19:47

I've succeeded in killing a vampire with a gun from gun mod. Now the game would become more intresting :)

by **rinoux** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 20:06

Rat

Clownfish

Vampire

by **neko259** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 20:09

rinoux wrote:Rat

Maybe add a cat chasing rats and killing them? :3

by **sapier** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 20:45

@neko259
There already are some mechanisms trying to avoid land animals running to water. They sometimes fail but in this case the animal should drown soon. Does your cow still run on seaground?

Shooting animals isn't as expected by now as animals don't have any health until lua entity health patch is applied to minetest.

by **neko259** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 20:50

Does your cow still run on seaground?

I don't know, I've gone testing other things then.
Shooting animals is just fine for now. Of course the patch would make them more difficult to kill, I'll wait for it :)
What about poor chickens?

by **dannydark** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 20:51

@sapier I've listed your Patch in the wiki patchsets page in hope it will get sent upstream quicker ^_^

http://c55.me/minetest/wiki/doku.php?id=patchsets&#ready_for_review

by **kahrl** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 21:50

IMO, each entity should also have a maximum HP value and getMaxHP() and setMaxHP() methods, and setHP() should limit its argument to the range [0, getMaxHP()]. The same interface should be implemented for players too (either implemented the same way, or return a constant maximum HP of 20). get_max_hp and set_max_hp methods should be exposed to Lua. The max HP should be serialized into static object data.

by **sapier** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 22:09

@kahrl I agree your proposal would be even better. But it's only additional code so adding the small patch won't interfere if anyone wants to add that later. Your proposal would be better in "feature discussion" as noone will find it within this thread ;-)

by **rinoux** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 00:58

I've found a little problem with rats, they are too many at the same place... 12 !!

by **LunaVorax** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 01:12

I'm really not a fan of your vampire/zombies sprites but, on the other hand, your animals sprites are just gorgeous. Amazing work!

by **sapier** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 01:43

I don't like the vampire too ;-) but im not a designer so I need some help. That's why thanks for nearly all good graphics go to rinoux ;-)

@rinoux seems you've really got a rat plaque there ;-) ... are they animal rats or the original ones? I've had a similar sort of mob cummulation before I added rats.

There's a check in animals that removes animals beeing cummulated too much ... I'll check if it's buggy after reorganization. Btw you might check if those are animal rats by catching them with net ... normal rats can't be catched that way.

by **rinoux** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 01:43

LunaVorax wrote:I'm really not a fan of your vampire/zombies sprites but, on the other hand, your animals sprites are just gorgeous. Amazing work!

What kind of zombie/vampire do you like to see ? what wrong with my version ?

by **IPushButton2653** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 02:33

I'm working on a ReDead for the zombie. It's from my pack. I just need to get GIMP to work and I can start working on transparent textures again :D

by **rahonejm** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 05:19

got this error when tried to collect the milk from the cow with an empty glass :(

03:19:37: ACTION[ServerThread]: rahonejm punches object 6
03:19:37: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: error running function 'on_punch': ...0122-1-win32\bin\..\data\mods\animals/harvesting.lua:116: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'last' (a nil value)
03:19:38: ERROR[ServerThread]: stack traceback:

In thread a00:
C:\tmp\minetest\src\server.cpp:113: ServerThread::Thread: Assertion '0' failed.
Debug stacks:
DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD a00:
#0 ServerThread::Thread
(Leftover data: #1 Server::Receive)
(Leftover data: #2 Server::ProcessData)
(Leftover data: #3 ItemStack::deSerialize)
(Leftover data: #4 ItemStack::serialize)
DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD bbc:
#0 MeshUpdateThread::Thread
DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD de0:
#0 main
(Leftover data: #1 ClientMap::renderMap)
(Leftover data: #2 ClientEnvironment::step)
(Leftover data: #3 Client::Receive)
(Leftover data: #4 Client::ProcessData)
(Leftover data: #5 MeshUpdateQueue::addBlock)

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