[Mod] Ethereal [1.16] [ethereal]

[Xanthin]

TenPlus1, just another question that I wasn't able to sort by reading the "secret GuIde of The ninja forbidden arts", if you know what I mean.

Do fruits grow back on the trees?
For example, if I collect just the bananas from the banana tree, will they grow back eventually? Or I have to plant a new tree?

Thanks.

The fruits like apple and banana don't grow back (only cocoa beans from the farming redo mod used at Xanadu what you probably refere can, iirc) so you will have to grow up a new tree.

Side note: Glünggi made a mod for this (general) purpose, named refruit. With some modifiactions both mods could work well together, I think.

[firefox]

cocoa does not really regrow on it's own.
you have to "plant" it first, then it grows like any other farming plant.
but instead of wet soil, cocoa needs jungle trees.

it sounds simple, but there are quite a few conditions that you have to meet.
use the Ninja Art of Clairvoyance to see how it works. ;)

[Xanthin]

Yes, you're right firefox. In the meantime I remembered that too. Simply a year ago I farmed cocoa the last time. :)
edit: and that's why I had to look into it again and see: no need to "plant" cocoa. Just needs (without modifications, ehem) a good "portion of patience and time". That's why attaching a cocoa to a trunk with leaves is just much more efficient.

If anyone like, there is my port of Glünggi's refruit mod (mentioned in my last post) for ethereal. I hope I made no mistakes. I just had to try it.

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edit: Deleted the already outdated attachement after some more changes.
You can download the mod from its github repo.
(for usage delete the automatic added "-master" in the mod name)

[amadin]

Hi. Does noise_params will work for biome in mapgen_v7n.lua? Or maybe is another way to change biome size. Because bamboo biomes is too large for me.

[TenPlus1]

For Ethereal the heat and humidity of a biome typically determines it's size which is why I am working on the values to make them more even.

Updated to 1.19

- Added new biome routine
- Tweaked biome values (no more huge bamboo biome)
- Tweaked plant and tree decorations
- Fixed farming compatibility when using hoe on ethereal grass
- Dirt with dry grass changed into green dirt when near water
- Ice or snow above sea level melts into river water

https://github.com/tenplus1/ethereal

[tulenitata]

Ethereal + Mineclone

[Hybrid Dog]

Ethereal + Mineclone

How about putting basalt?

[TenPlus1]

Fixed waterlily bug for 0.4.13 stable users and removed mushroom spores so that shrooms spread like flowers in shady areas on top of soil.

https://github.com/tenplus1/ethereal

[Martin_Devil]

I think some of the biomes very, very large. Is it possible to somehow reduce their size?

[SamCinnamon]

Would it be possible to add a flat or "field" biome to ethereal, with no trees, plants, or hills?

I'm only interested in using Minetest to make a neighborhood of homes and buildings on completely flat, green ground.

I realize you can use mg_flags = flat, notrees, nocaves, but that doesn't limit the map to only green ground (the random biomes look bad), and I really want to use the ethereal blocks in the buildings themselves.

I hope this feature is added soon, or something close to it.

[duane]

Would it be possible to add a flat or "field" biome to ethereal, with no trees, plants, or hills?

The easiest way to do that is to add the following to the start of the ethereal/init.lua file:

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minetest.set_mapgen_params({mgname="flat", flags="nodungeons, nocaves, nodecorations"})

Then set your temperature and humidity to give you grass by adding something like this to your minetest.conf file:

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mg_biome_np_heat = 15, 1, (750, 750, 750), 5349, 3, 0.5, 2.0
mg_biome_np_humidity = 39, 1, (750, 750, 750), 842, 3, 0.5, 2.0

Or if you like nothing but purple grass, omit the heat and humidity lines.

[Kilarin]

BUT, if you just want a flat landscape with no trees plants or hills, Why on earth run ethereal, which is all about bizarre landscapes?

[paramat]

^ what duane wrote.

[SamCinnamon]

Thanks, but I can't get it to work. I'm still getting random biomes.
No mods activated, mapgen v6, and added the following to minetest.conf:

mg_flags = flat, notrees, nocaves, nodecorations
mg_biome_np_heat = 15, 1, (750, 750, 750), 5349, 3, 0.5, 2.0
mg_biome_np_humidity = 39, 1, (750, 750, 750), 842, 3, 0.5, 2.0

Edit:
Nevermind, I used the flatgen mod and it's working perfectly.
Thanks!

[duane]

Thanks, but I can't get it to work. I'm still getting random biomes.
No mods activated, mapgen v6, and added the following to minetest.conf:

mg_flags = flat, notrees, nocaves, nodecorations
mg_biome_np_heat = 15, 1, (750, 750, 750), 5349, 3, 0.5, 2.0
mg_biome_np_humidity = 39, 1, (750, 750, 750), 842, 3, 0.5, 2.0

That's not the same thing. There's a "flat" mapgen, which you can activate by adding a line to the ethereal/init.lua. Try my original instructions. They work on my system.

Edit: You will, of course, have to create a new world after making the changes.

[TenPlus1]

SamCinnamon: Ethereal is a v5/v7 mapgen only so it will not work properly with v6.

[SamCinnamon]

I prefer the simplicity of mods opposed to editing code. I think the more mods and in-game settings created for stuff, the more accessible minetest will be.

Some more ideas for Ethereal biomes:

- Strange Fields (small hills, minimal trees, bushes, completely covered with cotton, or some other unique plant)
- Vivid Islands (small islands in turquoise water, or some other vivid color: purple, pink?)

[trev]

OMG! I love this. I'm slapping it on my new survival server now! :)

[fireglow]

Hi,
I've been using this mod for a few weeks on one of my servers.
We've noticed, with some shock, that all default:dirt_with_grass has been replaced with ethereal:green_dirt.
Why is that?

[TenPlus1]

Ethereal has it's own biome grass types which is uses for the look of the biome and specific tree growth... Abm's take care of grass updates and Mobs Redo spawns specific mobs on each one also.

[duane]

[ufa]

SamCinnamon: Ethereal is a v5/v7 mapgen only so it will not work properly with v6.

I have an ongoing v6 world, with a lot of stuff and players. Is it possible to convert it do v7 or adapt this mod to v6?

[TenPlus1]

sorry ufa but this mod will not function properly on v6 maps and writing a new lua mapgen for v6 will take too long, although I'm not sure but you may be able to convert your v6 world to v7 instead and use ethereal for all newly generated areas ?!?!

[firefox]

i haven't tried it, but in theory the mapgen only creates new unexplored areas.
so switching from 6 to 7 should work, but it may create sharp edges at mapchunk borders where the old and the new areas meet. (but this could also look very interesting and it makes it easier to see the difference between 6 and 7)

[TenPlus1]

Update:

- Optimized and tidied code
- Set leaves to allfaces by default (blocky instead of leaftype)
- Set walk on leaves by default (setting in init.lua)
- Cave generation cuts through soil by default (setting in init.lua)
- Added glowing vines (1x fire dust surrounded by vines)

https://github.com/tenplus1/ethereal

[amadin]

Please remove junglegrass from green dirt it looks not good and junglegrass are in jungle

[TenPlus1]

The green grass in question is the jumble biome which is a mix of jungle/grassy, so has jungle grass...

[amadin]

I don't know how work ethereal mod but i think jungle grass in non-jungle biome is not good idea. If ethereal mod not installed there are only default grass at default green biome.

[duane]

I don't know how work ethereal mod but i think jungle grass in non-jungle biome is not good idea. If ethereal mod not installed there are only default grass at default green biome.

I disagree. I think it works fine as it is.

[Kilarin]

one of the wonderful things about open source is that if you don't like something about a project, you can just fork it and change it to suite yourself. :)