[WIP] Undergrowth [GitHub]

[Evergreen]

[spoiler=Testing some stalactites (not generated naturally):]
http://i.imgur.com/M1ZEfpg.png
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[spoiler=Also some pebbles: (generated naturally, also need a better nodebox)]
http://i.imgur.com/ST3r4b9.png
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Do either of you know how to make the stalactites only be placeable on the ceiling? "attatched_node = 1" only does it with the ground.

[Mossmanikin]

The pebbles remind me a bit of mole hills. Would love to see those in the world from time to time! Hope this mod continues to develop. Bushes the size somewhere between the strawberry bushes and trees would be great.

Mole hills is a good idea. :)

[Zeg9]

Looking forward to try this mod :D

[Mossmanikin]

Do either of you know how to make the stalactites only be placeable on the ceiling? "attatched_node = 1" only does it with the ground.

I'd use:

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paramtype2 = "wallmounted"


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on_place


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if minetest.get_node({x=pos.x, y=pos.y+1, z=pos.z}).name == "default:stone" then


or something similar

[Evergreen]

Do either of you know how to make the stalactites only be placeable on the ceiling? "attatched_node = 1" only does it with the ground.

I'd use:

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paramtype2 = "wallmounted"


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on_place


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if minetest.get_node({x=pos.x, y=pos.y+1, z=pos.z}).name == "default:stone" then


or something similar

Okay, in that case then where would I put this code:

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if minetest.get_node({x=pos.x, y=pos.y-1, z=pos.z}).name == "default:air" then

[Mossmanikin]

I'm thinking of changing the nodeboxes on the bushes from the nodebox that looks like plantlike X, to the parallel || nodebox that Mossmanikin gave me to start with. Then maybe forcing the branches to angle down into the center node by using facedir. Would make the branches look less random, but I'm not sure that's a good thing. I do like the uneven heights of the leaf nodes.

How about a hollow cube without bottom and top?

[Mossmanikin]

Okay, in that case then where would I put this code

Looks like isn't as simple as I thought, or at least doesn't work like that. :D

Going to see if I can find an answer, 'cause I'd really like to know now too.

[Evergreen]

Okay, in that case then where would I put this code

Looks like isn't as simple as I thought, or at least doesn't work like that. :D

Going to see if I can find an answer, 'cause I'd really like to know now too.

The wall mount works, butit allows you to palce it on all sides. On another note, the way the mapgen is going to work for stalactites is it is going to look for a 2 block space beneath a stone block. The only problem is that I have no idea how to do that. :P

[Mossmanikin]

The wall mount works, butit allows you to palce it on all sides. On another note, the way the mapgen is going to work for stalactites is it is going to look for a 2 block space beneath a stone block. The only problem is that I have no idea how to do that. :P

Except for simply copying some code and changing some node names I never really looked into mapgen.
Since this mod will have plants_lib as dependency anyway, we could "abuse" it for stalactites...

[Evergreen]

The wall mount works, butit allows you to palce it on all sides. On another note, the way the mapgen is going to work for stalactites is it is going to look for a 2 block space beneath a stone block. The only problem is that I have no idea how to do that. :P

Except for simply copying some code and changing some node names I never really looked into mapgen.
Since this mod will have plants_lib as dependency anyway, we could "abuse" it for stalactites...

I'm using "true" mapgen not plants lib for this. I just don't like having dependencies if possible, and the default way of doing it is faster anyway.

[LionsDen]

[spoiler=Testing some stalactites (not generated naturally):]
http://i.imgur.com/M1ZEfpg.png
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[spoiler=Also some pebbles: (generated naturally, also need a better nodebox)]
http://i.imgur.com/ST3r4b9.png
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Stalactites look cool! But if you have Stalactites, you gotta have stalagmites. Just flip what you have and make them come out of the floor.

Well, of course. The only problem is that I am too lazy, and don't want to take the time to flip the nodeboxes.

You wouldn't need to flip the node boxes I am guessing. I think you can use wallmounted or something that uses the param2 as a facedir and it would flip the box any way needed. Then you just need to add code to make sure they aren't placed on the sides of walls and such.

[Evergreen]

Stalactites look cool! But if you have Stalactites, you gotta have stalagmites. Just flip what you have and make them come out of the floor.

Well, of course. The only problem is that I am too lazy, and don't want to take the time to flip the nodeboxes.

You wouldn't need to flip the node boxes I am guessing. I think you can use wallmounted or something that uses the param2 as a facedir and it would flip the box any way needed. Then you just need to add code to make sure they aren't placed on the sides of walls and such.

Good idea, that's what I'll do.

[Mossmanikin]

[spoiler=Pebbles/rocks]


Code for nodeboxes: pebble.zip
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[Evergreen]

[spoiler=Pebbles/rocks]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1e55sm36p9ulamw/screenshot_27160308.png

Code for nodeboxes: pebble.zip
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Thank you Mossmanikin! Now I'll continue to work on the mapgen code.

[Mossmanikin]

Thank you Mossmanikin! Now I'll continue to work on the mapgen code.

You're welcome. :)


@ Evergreen & Neuromancer:

Since this mod is about a lot more than plants, I'm not really satisfied with the name "Undergrowth" anymore.
What do you think? Should we change it? And if so: any suggestions?

[Neuromancer]

Thank you Mossmanikin! Now I'll continue to work on the mapgen code.

You're welcome. :)


@ Evergreen & Neuromancer:

Since this mod is about a lot more than plants, I'm not really satisfied with the name "Undergrowth" anymore.
What do you think? Should we change it? And if so: any suggestions?

To be honest, I think this should be a modpack. Containing a bunch of separate mods. There's just too much here, and I'm not sure I want to put all of it in my game, I have to evaluate each sub mod and see how it impacts performance. The same way I think other people will want just some of the parts. I have no choice to split things out because performance on Immersive Fun has just really gotten bad as I have added all sorts of cool Mod's. To the point where I had to rip out most trees in More Trees, and still performance makes the game barely playable.

Bushes, Rocks, stalagmites/Stalagtites, Forest floor (roots, sticks, rotting logs, leaves, seedlings & saplings, patchy grass & dirt nodes). Rocks look awesome!

[Neuromancer]

Here's the way improved bushes Mod:

Fixed orientation of branches.
Totally improved look of branch nodeboxes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/whs1owp458e9agf/bushes20130915.zip

[Neuromancer]

[spoiler=Pebbles/rocks]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1e55sm36p9ulamw/screenshot_27160308.png

Code for nodeboxes: pebble.zip
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These rocks look awesome, but shouldn't rocks be half buried in the dirt?

[Mossmanikin]

To be honest, I think this should be a modpack.

Yeah, thought about that too. Let's make a modpack out of this.

Here's the way improved bushes Mod:

Fixed orientation of branches.
Totally improved look of branch nodeboxes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/whs1owp458e9agf/bushes20130915.zip

I think sequoia leaves are a good choice.
Earlier you said

make the bushes look less blocky by breaking leaf nodeboxes into 8 boxes, and randomly picking only a few of the 1/8 size boxes to be populated with leaves

maybe something like that would look really nice, since the bushes are quite small.

These rocks look awesome, but shouldn't rocks be half buried in the dirt?

Not necessarily, but maybe it's worth a try.

[Mossmanikin]

[spoiler=dry leaves test]


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[Evergreen]

[spoiler=dry leaves test]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eqqzmh9rhqsrtl3/screenshot_43993637.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/96yg8pkupek5nlj/screenshot_56788331.png
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Those look great! If you want to get fancy, you might want to have some kind of smooth transition between normal grass and regular grass, like minecraft does.

[Neuromancer]

[spoiler=dry leaves test]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eqqzmh9rhqsrtl3/screenshot_43993637.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/96yg8pkupek5nlj/screenshot_56788331.png
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Those look great! If you want to get fancy, you might want to have some kind of smooth transition between normal grass and regular grass, like minecraft does.

You are totally on the right path with the dried leaves, however I agree with Evergreen, the transition needs to be smoother next to all grass nodes. I would do that by adding 1 extra node that is 3/4 grass and 1/4 dirt/leaves like you had earlier.

[Mossmanikin]

Those look great! If you want to get fancy, you might want to have some kind of smooth transition between normal grass and regular grass, like minecraft does.

You are totally on the right path with the dried leaves, however I agree with Evergreen, the transition needs to be smoother next to all grass nodes. I would do that by adding 1 extra node that is 3/4 grass and 1/4 dirt/leaves like you had earlier.

Thanks. :)
You're right about the transition, I'm not satisfied with these hard edges either.

[spoiler=EDIT: Some pixx of smoother transition and how it looks when generated]
Smoother transition:

Generated in jungle:

With ferns, grasses and tiny trees:

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[Neuromancer]

[spoiler=EDIT: Some pixx of smoother transition and how it looks when generated]
Smoother transition:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xl16g23tdzy2aq7/screenshot_119604695.png
Generated in jungle:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/yoyn56nyuiwn3bx/screenshot_146413953.png
With ferns, grasses and tiny trees:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/s0v1fk0gev6jlfn/screenshot_146528783.png
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Utterly beautiful!! When can I add this to our Immersive Fun game? Do you have to write the code yet? Minecraft will never be able to catch up with you!

[Evergreen]

[spoiler=EDIT: Some pixx of smoother transition and how it looks when generated]
Smoother transition:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xl16g23tdzy2aq7/screenshot_119604695.png
Generated in jungle:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/yoyn56nyuiwn3bx/screenshot_146413953.png
With ferns, grasses and tiny trees:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/s0v1fk0gev6jlfn/screenshot_146528783.png
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Utterly beautiful!! When can I add this to our Immersive Fun game? Do you have to write the code yet? Minecraft will never be able to catch up with you!

Those look great! If you want to get fancy, you might want to have some kind of smooth transition between normal grass and regular grass, like minecraft does.

You are totally on the right path with the dried leaves, however I agree with Evergreen, the transition needs to be smoother next to all grass nodes. I would do that by adding 1 extra node that is 3/4 grass and 1/4 dirt/leaves like you had earlier.

Thanks. :)
You're right about the transition, I'm not satisfied with these hard edges either.

[spoiler=EDIT: Some pixx of smoother transition and how it looks when generated]
Smoother transition:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xl16g23tdzy2aq7/screenshot_119604695.png
Generated in jungle:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/yoyn56nyuiwn3bx/screenshot_146413953.png
With ferns, grasses and tiny trees:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/s0v1fk0gev6jlfn/screenshot_146528783.png
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Absolutely beautiful! You work on the beauty of the overworld, while I work on the beauty of the underworld. I love how much depth this is going to give minetest when we finish this mod.

[Chinchow]

What about Iron Ore Lumps that spawn similar to pebbles but only in open caves near Iron Ore?

[Evergreen]

What about Iron Ore Lumps that spawn similar to pebbles but only in open caves near Iron Ore?

Good idea! I'll try doing that.

[Mossmanikin]

Utterly beautiful!! When can I add this to our Immersive Fun game? Do you have to write the code yet? Minecraft will never be able to catch up with you!

Glad you like it.
I've written some abm's. There's too much forest soils with that (near every tree).
Code using plants_lib is finished. Looks fine, but is too slow.
I'm working on some code using "minetest.register_on_generated". Hopefully this will be faster.

Absolutely beautiful! You work on the beauty of the overworld, while I work on the beauty of the underworld. I love how much depth this is going to give minetest when we finish this mod.

Glad you like it too.
Once more I'm surprised, how some small details can make a lot of difference.
Btw.: I'd love to see your code. I have the feeling I could learn from that.

[Evergreen]

Utterly beautiful!! When can I add this to our Immersive Fun game? Do you have to write the code yet? Minecraft will never be able to catch up with you!

Glad you like it.
I've written some abm's. There's too much forest soils with that (near every tree).
Code using plants_lib is finished. Looks fine, but is too slow.
I'm working on some code using "minetest.register_on_generated". Hopefully this will be faster.

Absolutely beautiful! You work on the beauty of the overworld, while I work on the beauty of the underworld. I love how much depth this is going to give minetest when we finish this mod.

Glad you like it too.
Once more I'm surprised, how some small details can make a lot of difference.
Btw.: I'd love to see your code. I have the feeling I could learn from that.

I actually haven't done too much, but I'll give you it once I figure out how to get the stalactites to work.

[Mossmanikin]

I actually haven't done too much, but I'll give you it once I figure out how to get the stalactites to work.

Can't wait (actually I can :D)