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As celeron suggested http://c55.me/minetest/forum/viewtopic.php?id=882 I'm going to create a material only mod for animals and other mods willing to add recieps for this matierials too. This mod won't contain any recieps or active code but only item/node definitions.
As not all materials do exist atm I'm asking for suggestions what this mod shall contain or not contain.

Current Version 0.0.7

License: Do whatever you want!

Current Materials included are:

Nodes:

• wool_white
• wool_grey
• wool_brown
• wool_black
• wool_yellow (TODO)
• wool_red (TODO)
• wool_violet (TODO)
• wool_blue (TODO)
• wool_green(TODO)
• wool_orange(TODO)

Items:

• raw_meat
• raw_meat_pork (TODO)
• raw_meat_sheep (TODO)
• raw_meat_beef (TODO)
• raw_meat_deer (TODO)
• horn (TODO)
• fur (TODO)
• bone
• egg
• egg_big
• feather
• scale_white
• scale_grey
• scale_blue
• scale_golden

Add eggs and feathers also.

I would also suggest you to split animals mod to 3: library (API), friendly mobs, aggressive mobs.

@neko259 spliting friendly and unfriendly mobs won't make any sense as it would be 90% code duplication. A split in three parts is already planed but it will be: Materials,AnimalDefinitions,Engine.
Engine itself already contains different components, user will be able to replace each of it when defining an animal (if his replacement suits the api required for each component). Combat for example doesn't have much external dependencys.

spliting friendly and unfriendly mobs won't make any sense as it would be 90% code duplication

It make sense for the players that want animals but don't want to die every night. You can do that in one mod but implement some setting that toggles unfriendly mobs.

Ok I misunderstood what you were trying to tell me. You were talking about splitting the "AnimalDefinitions" part further. That's a good idea, I'm going to split it down to animal level eg mods animal_sheep animal_cow animal_deer ...

I'm going to split it down to animal level eg mods animal_sheep animal_cow animal_deer ...

Does minetest have a constraint on mod count? Maybe so many mods will be too much...

There used to be the limit of ~30 (because of a bug with Lua stack handling), but not anymore. Number of registered nodes, items, ABMs etc. is more important.

Will there be dedicated threads for mods? Or it can't be done in the engine for now?

I don't know. First of all, Lua wasn't written with thread safety in mind (and there are no thread or synchronization / locking primitives in the stdlib, so an API for them would have to be designed from scratch). Also, thread safety is hard, there's enough of that stuff on the C++ side already. What do you want to use threads for?

kahrl wrote:I don't know. First of all, Lua wasn't written with thread safety in mind (and there are no thread or synchronization / locking primitives in the stdlib, so an API for them would have to be designed from scratch). Also, thread safety is hard, there's enough of that stuff on the C++ side already. What do you want to use threads for?

Well, most servers have at least 2 CPUs. I would be nice if minetest be more parallel.

having multiple threads handling different entities would be great but adding thread safety is lots of work and this of topic in this thread too so let's get back to origin ;-)

If one has the Animals 0.9.9 mod, would they need this mod too or is the stuff in this mod also in the animals mod?

no animals doesn't contain those materials anymore and it doesn't contain animals as of 0.9.11 too. All animals got extracted to separate mods enabling user to remove those he/she doesn't like.

When will you add new wool texture? I'm going to make dyes mod to make the wool colored.

next animals mod will contain the colors listed, if you want other colors in this mod too please make suggestions.

I want to make it possible to combine flowers with wool to get flower color in it. All the rainbow colors :)

Can you add wool of all colors in this mod? They can be not obtainable, I just need them or I'll have to implement mine and it won't be very comfortable to have different colors in different mods.

Sorry for spam :)

can you be a little bit more precise about "all"? ;-)

Yellow, red, violet, blue, green, orange. These are the colors I can make from flowers and cactus. Grey and black wool can be made with coal. Brown wool... maybe make dyes from dirt? At last in will be useful :D

Brown wool... maybe make from tree ?

rinoux wrote:Brown wool... maybe make from tree ?

Tree already makes wood. Maybe I'll have to make some item to combine with other items to make dyes, not just from flowers.

probably adding some kind of furnacelike object "mill" might be a solution ... ok not exactly furnace as a mill wouldn't need fuel

sapier wrote:probably adding some kind of furnacelike object "mill" might be a solution ... ok not exactly furnace as a mill wouldn't need fuel

Mill needs some kind of power too. I think when luafurnace will be finished, we would make a mill powered with mesecons.

how do i get cotton?

Ok... how can I erase wool bricks? :D I tried scissors, sword, pickaxes and another sharp stuff - nothing helps.

are you using the newest dev because then your screwed

ya i found that out

i got sick of raw meat so i edited in cooked meat, you might wanna add that

Hello

I get the following error messsage

item 'animalmaterials:glass' not found

How can I disable that?

Thanks,
JPR