[Ended] Website Competition

Which website should minetest use in future?

Poll ended at Wed Aug 26, 2015 06:14

Calinou's Bootstrap entry
12
80%
srifqi's Material Design meets minetest.net
3
20%
 
Total votes : 15

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[Ended] Website Competition

by est31 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 18:47

The competition has ended. Calinou's bootstrap entry won, and is deployed.

Hello,

the minetest website has come into the years. It had its time, but it has been decided to replace it, with something nicer. To find a new design, we (the core team) are holding a design contest.

Entries have to fulfill:
    1. Has to look good :)
    2. Should have similar content as the main page (basic description, has all the links, some screenshots, etc.).
    3. Of course, it has to be permissively licensed (like CC-BY-SA), i.e. no nc/nd clauses.
    4. We either want to run the website using github pages, or dokuwiki. Therefore, we accept dokuwiki templates, and jekyll content. Also, you can chose another (open source) technology for display on github, as long as you provide us with automated steps (git hook + setup steps, apt-get etc) to generate the html.
    5. It should be more than just a proof-of-concept, therefore it should be responsive, and not require too much data for mobile connections. Special optimisations in this regard are a big plus!

Steps of the contest:
    1. We accept entries until August 18, in one month. Please submit them in their own thread (in this subforum), with a post linking them here.
    2. We filter out submissions which obviously don't meet the criteria. To provide further assistance, this is partly already done during the entry period. You will see a list in this post.
    3. We let the public vote to get an overview over popularity.
    4. The core devs discuss which entry to chose, what to modify, also considering technical arguments (esp. 4. and 5.).
    5. A winner gets announced, and the new website gets deployed!!

Who can submit:
Anybody :), including coredevs. If they submit an entry, they should be as neutral as possible in the discussion. Multiple entries, teams, etc, all allowed. Drafts are good for the discussion, but will get filtered out in step 2. Therefore, complete your submissions! You are free to use content not created by you as long as the licensing is ok.

FAQ
    How should I submit? As described above, you should create a new thread for your submission inside this forum. The first post in the thread should be kept up to date with the latest state of development. It should contain:
      1. A screenshot
      2. (If existent) A link to a live version
      3. Link to the source code (zip, github, gitlab, whatever you think is apropriate)
      4. License information
      5. If you are submitting as a team, the team members.
    What exactly should the "source code" contain? Everything needed by us to be abled to set the website up and keep it up to date.
    What should be the scope of the website? The only strict goal is to make a (representative) landing site to sit in front of the forum, the downloads, and the wikis and all of those things that we have - the purpose is important, not how the purpose is exactly fulfilled.

We would also welcome a good bit of open discussion about the future design during this time in the community.

Happy designing!

Submissions:
1. srifqi's Material Design meets minetest.net
2. Calinou's Bootstrap entry
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Re: Website Competition

by Dragonop » Wed Jul 22, 2015 02:34

Is it going to be any discussion about the final decision of the core devs or it will be deployed inmediatly?
 

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Re: Website Competition

by est31 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 16:34

We'll listen to arguments. Its best to comment on submissions early on, so that we can value them.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by cornernote » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:21

js/css for github contributors that could be loaded into the new site:
https://jsfiddle.net/8wx98qnj/
 

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Re: Website Competition

by rubenwardy » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:51

cornernote wrote:js/css for github contributors that could be loaded into the new site:
https://jsfiddle.net/8wx98qnj/


Pretty cool looking. That div is unneeded though - it's more semantic to just have a list.

Although this sort of functionality shouldn't really rely on js.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by cornernote » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:03

Thanks, i updated it to just have the UL:
https://jsfiddle.net/8wx98qnj/2/

You can also do it via server-side request (eg using php), but as I understand it this will not be an option when using GH-Pages and Jekyll.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by benrob0329 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 02:32

So neither WordPress nor Drupal would work? (I prefer Drupal, though haven't switched my (and some friends') site to it yet)
 

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Re: Website Competition

by est31 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 06:47

Confirm, neither would work. Once you know one technology though, you can learn the other one pretty fast I guess.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by amadin » Wed Aug 12, 2015 09:12

I think current design of current site is nice so why create new design? I think site must have multi language and change language automaticaly by detecting default browser language, but dokuwiki translation plugins can't detect and change language automaticaly. If use for minetest.net and for wiki.minetest.net different cms then you may use Drupal for minetest.net with auto switching language and for wiki.minetest.net use dokuwiki for example. At least after the user typed in Google "Minetest" he will see the main site (minetest.net) in his own language (in minetest plays many small children so we must simplify the initial process of familiarization). And template must be adaptive for tablet and smartphone.
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Re: Website Competition

by benrob0329 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 13:10

One thing though, if you use Drupal you can have the same theme and even website for everythin: (I think).
 

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Re: Website Competition

by est31 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 06:05

The submission period has ended. These two entries have been submitted before the end of the competition:
1. srifqi's Material Design meets minetest.net
2. Calinou's Bootstrap entry

Hashes for the versions of the entries of the time of the contest ended:
srifqi's entry zip had the sha256sum f529c6f794a9a561d843acbda4840328e0dd6dabe995a009986d936ac6243f34
Calinou's entry had the git commit a7244130edebb1604b2077151992066fe1d47d70

Both have been submitted within time, and fulfil the original requirement of a website for minetest, they have, as far as I can tell, all neccessary elements. Also, both have free licenses, as required.

Technical comparison:
Both entries are responsive in the sense that they run well on mobile devices or devices with small screens.
I have run both sites through the W3C mobileOK Checker, and both failed, already due to their size. While most what the checker complains about isn't very relevant in my opinion, its size metric is very useful. srifqi's entry had a size of ~260 KiB, which is less than Calinou's ~2.6 MiB. I don't think though that we need such a strict border of 20 KiB, its enough in my opinion if the website stays below 100 KiB.
1. srifqi's entry uses the Material Design library, and php. As it uses PHP, it doesn't run on github without tricks, like pregenerating the html locally, after every change of the php source. This is a big minus.
2. Calinou's entry is made in bootstrap, which natively runs on the target platform github.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by rubenwardy » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:29

est31 wrote:Calinou's ~2.6 MiB.


It's only that big because he hasn't made thumbnails of the gallery yet.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by Calinou » Wed Aug 19, 2015 17:14

rubenwardy wrote:
est31 wrote:Calinou's ~2.6 MiB.


It's only that big because he hasn't made thumbnails of the gallery yet.


Yes, there is an issue about it.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by Dragonop » Thu Aug 20, 2015 03:24

I think that the competition lasted not enough time for the entrys to reach it's full potential
It's "Drag" for the friends.

Sorry I haven't been online as much lately, I'm real busy.
https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=4472
 

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Re: Website Competition

by benrob0329 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 03:48

Perhaps not, but then again they are mostly done..
 

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Re: Website Competition

by est31 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 00:15

The competition has ended, and Calinou's bootstrap design is the winning entry. It has been deployed to minetest.net
 

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Re: Website Competition

by benrob0329 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 01:31

I like the new site!
 

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Re: Website Competition

by Don » Mon Aug 31, 2015 02:05

I agree. Looks so much cleaner and easy to use.
Just need to add this to the head so I can scale on my phone.
Your phone or window isn't wide enough to display the code box. If it's a phone, try rotating it to landscape mode.
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Re: Website Competition

by Napiophelios » Mon Aug 31, 2015 04:50

The fonts look messed up....too skinny or something, IDK
the edges look jagged and weird.

Image

Other than the fonts, tho, it looks nice.

What was wrong with the old site?
Was it just time for a change or what?



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Re: Website Competition

by Calinou » Mon Aug 31, 2015 05:38

Napiophelios wrote:The fonts look messed up....too skinny or something, IDK
the edges look jagged and weird.

Image

Other than the fonts, tho, it looks nice.

What was wrong with the old site?
Was it just time for a change or what?



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Which browser and operating system do you use?
 

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Re: Website Competition

by Napiophelios » Mon Aug 31, 2015 07:17

I use Chromium browser and WindowsXPSP3

The screenshot is when viewed with Chromium,
but looks the same with Opera and Firefox.
It looks best with Google Chrome.
I thought maybe its because I have a small screen (1024x600),
but it looks the same when increased zoom
so it must be my old WindowsXP OS :)
 

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Re: Website Competition

by Don » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:28

I use Ubuntu Gnome 15.04. I tried it on both Chrome and Firefox. I also have an android phone with Chrome. They all look good. The text does not look like that.
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Re: Website Competition

by Napiophelios » Mon Aug 31, 2015 21:53

It looks 10x better on the Android...but its still rough looking when images are loaded behind the text.
 

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Re: Website Competition

by philipbenr » Tue Sep 01, 2015 02:36

No issues with Firefox or UC-Browser/IExplorer (yes, I got a cheap Windows Phone. Shame on me)
 


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