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Minetest Mod Creator

I'm sitting infront of my Netbook thinking of what I can do.
So I thought what it's like to write a Minetest Mod Creator - programme for modding-beginners.

Here's what I've done so far:

..and some code in background :D

What's your opinion to this project?

Looks good. Nice work!

Is it a .lua file editor, or does it generate them for you?

A quite important thing to keep in mind in editors is KISS: make it as user friendly as you can, without making it stupid.

Also, it looks like Visual basic, which won't run in GNU+Linux :P

Finally, I suggest you release the code, a build, and/or make a youtube showing its functionality.

For this appilcation I need a little minetest sandbox which runs minetest it self + activated mods. The sandbox-world only have to be 20x20x20 blocks big.

Lukeking wrote:For this appilcation I need a little minetest sandbox which runs minetest it self + activated mods. The sandbox-world only have to be 20x20x20 blocks big.

Ah, you want to provide a preview for the user to help him "inspecting" his nodes? Hmm, not easy...

webdesigner97 wrote:

Lukeking wrote:For this appilcation I need a little minetest sandbox which runs minetest it self + activated mods. The sandbox-world only have to be 20x20x20 blocks big.

Ah, you want to provide a preview for the user to help him "inspecting" his nodes? Hmm, not easy...

Right :)

rubenwardy wrote:Looks good. Nice work!

Is it a .lua file editor, or does it generate them for you?

A quite important thing to keep in mind in editors is KISS: make it as user friendly as you can, without making it stupid.

Also, it looks like Visual basic, which won't run in GNU+Linux :P

Finally, I suggest you release the code, a build, and/or make a youtube showing its functionality.

1. I add a create and delete button - for creating and deleting the written mod -
you can select options write and edit code and create it
2. yes it's Visual Basic based and won't run on Linux or Mac OS X systems

I don't approve since you're choosing to make it proprietary, and I can't use it anyway since it's Windows-only. Re-do it in something that works on GNU/Linux systems (maybe Qt; try the Qt Designer, it's very nice) and release it as free/libre software, and I would be interested.

onpon4 wrote:I don't approve, because you're choosing to make it proprietary, and I can't use it anyway since it's Windows-only. Re-do it in something that works on GNU/Linux systems (maybe Qt; try the Qt Designer) and release it as free/libre software, and I would be interested.

1. it's version 0.1 !
2. maybe I'll teach myself python, so I can make it all-system-compatible

I'll make a german and english version first and on requests I also can add another language to it (maybe french, spanish)
Or I add a folder to it with *.LANG-files in it and in header a chance to change the languages

Should I add syntax highlighting to it?

If you want.

Syntax highlighting with rich text boxes in visual basic is a pain

rubenwardy wrote:If you want.

Syntax highlighting with rich text boxes in visual basic is a pain

I don't think so... only 16 lines of code (but for every syntax)

just noticed something. you list depends.txt as optional. it is a requirement for mods (I think).

Novacain wrote:just noticed something. you list depends.txt as optional. it is a requirement for mods (I think).

It is not a requirement.

init.lua is the only requirement.

Lukeking wrote:I don't think so... only 16 lines of code (but for every syntax)

I probably did it the wrong way.

https://github.com/rubenwardy/VB_WebCreatorPro/blob/master/Multa%20Web%20Creater%20Pro/HtmlEditor.vb#L48

Novacain wrote:just noticed something. you list depends.txt as optional. it is a requirement for mods (I think).

not for all mods, e.g. if you make a modification for spawning something on certain areas or change inventory view.... you mustn't need depends.txt

rubenwardy wrote:

Novacain wrote:just noticed something. you list depends.txt as optional. it is a requirement for mods (I think).

It is not a requirement.

init.lua is the only requirement.

Lukeking wrote:I don't think so... only 16 lines of code (but for every syntax)

I probably did it the wrong way.

https://github.com/rubenwardy/VB_WebCreatorPro/blob/master/Multa%20Web%20Creater%20Pro/HtmlEditor.vb#L48

I just used following lines of code:

This is a good project, however, I am working on an online version for dev.minetest.net That is if the moderators accept it.

philipbenr wrote:This is a good project, however, I am working on an online version for dev.minetest.net That is if the moderators accept it.

dev.minetest.net is a wiki. Not sure about putting it there.

Would be cool to create an online Scratch 2.0 atmosphere.
(All update notifications in one place)

Maybe allow running of mods via:

minetest_mod://mod_download_url_to_run?conf=and_maybe_some_settings

Do you have any plans to make this available to download in the nearish future? It looks really good! (And will save me a load of work!)

Will a download be made for this.?

Lukeking wrote:I'll make a german and english version first and on requests I also can add another language to it (maybe french, spanish)
Or I add a folder to it with *.LANG-files in it and in header a chance to change the languages

I recommend using transifex (continuous localisation server), then the community can easily translate the project.

Their software is FOSS and the service is free to use for open source projects.

We can try to make it using lazarus :

http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org

easy as visual basic, powerfull as C++ and the same exact code can run on linux, windows and mac with just a recompilaton.

ps.: It produces binary code in most platforms, besides android where it compiles to java bytecodes (generic java bytecode, can run on jre too).

can you make it where you don't need to code? the mcreator is a minecraft mod maker that that doesn't need any knowlage of code.
perhaps you can do the same?

Lukeking wrote:

onpon4 wrote:I don't approve, because you're choosing to make it proprietary, and I can't use it anyway since it's Windows-only. Re-do it in something that works on GNU/Linux systems (maybe Qt; try the Qt Designer) and release it as free/libre software, and I would be interested.

1. it's version 0.1 !
2. maybe I'll teach myself python, so I can make it all-system-compatible

I'll make a german and english version first and on requests I also can add another language to it (maybe french, spanish)
Or I add a folder to it with *.LANG-files in it and in header a chance to change the languages

I agree with Onpon4. For crossplat form compatibility and ease of recreation, it would be wise to look in to and use QT5 and C++11. They work great together. Here is the link for both of them.

http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0
http://woboq.com/blog/cpp11-in-qt5.html
C++11 actual website [url]http://www.stroustrup.com/C++11FAQ.html
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Videos of QT5 and C++11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMcQM51FPFI --> QT5 Why you should be excited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sajBj_eiH10 --> C++11 speed up QT5 programs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXqJD-n2O0&list=PLS1QulWo1RIZjrD_OLju84cUaUlLRe5jQ --> QT C++ GUI

Hope this helps you out to make it availible for Mac and Linux as well.

Thanks,
-SF-

C++ will probably be too advanced for him. Python will be more productive and easier.

Quote from the screenshot:

You're not allowed to modify and sell this programme in any way.

What justifies this?

Wuzzy wrote:Quote from the screenshot:

You're not allowed to modify and sell this programme in any way.

What justifies this?

Minetest is Opensorce NOT closesorce. It is ok. you should read what the dif is from open and close source is. Selling for monny might be a prob (i am not compleatly sure), but if it is free it is ok. ( the "...MODIFY and SELL this programme IN ANY WAY" part is WRONG)

asdfref wrote:

Wuzzy wrote:Quote from the screenshot:

You're not allowed to modify and sell this programme in any way.

What justifies this?

Minetest is Opensorce NOT closesorce. It is ok. you should read what the dif is from open and close source is. Selling for monny might be a prob (i am not compleatly sure), but if it is free it is ok. ( the "...MODIFY and SELL this programme IN ANY WAY" part is WRONG)

err... what are you on?

Open source meens you can modiffy and then give it to the public, did you look at the screenshots (pictures) dowload it will tell you.

asdfref wrote:Open source meens you can modiffy and then give it to the public, did you look at the screenshots (pictures) dowload it will tell you.

We are talking about the mod creator program, which is not open source.

You are allowed to sell the Minetest source code, btw. You just have to give the source to the purchaser. (although it is ethically wrong if the purchaser does not know it is based on MT, see globeminner for example).

asdfref wrote:Open source meens you can modiffy and then give it to the public, did you look at the screenshots (pictures) dowload it will tell you.

WTF??

rubenwardy wrote:We are talking about the mod creator program, which is not open source.

Minetest: open source
Mod Creator: not open source

You've misread the post.