[Game] Pixture

[eduardomezencio]

Nice that the texture was fixed, but my problem was really about the seed and coordinates.

Even in -177, 5, 75, I can see nothing. Our maps are definitely generating differently. What could be causing that? I'm not using any mod with your game and I'm using Minetest 0.4.13

[kaadmy]

Did you try waiting for about 10 seconds? The villages are a bit slow generating...
I also use minetest 0.4.13-dev, that might make a difference...
If you get tired of trying find a village, run the command /giveme village:grassland_village, then place it somewhere.

[eduardomezencio]

Did you try waiting for about 10 seconds? The villages are a bit slow generating...
I also use minetest 0.4.13-dev, that might make a difference...
If you get tired of trying find a village, run the command /giveme village:grassland_village, then place it somewhere.

Yes, I waited. And I alse have already used the village node to spawn a village and check how it is.. but I'm still worried about this seed thing.. it's not very nice to think that you can't share seeds with others and get the same results..

[kaadmy]

Hmm, i'll try it with Minetest 0.4.13, not the dev version, I thought the mgv7 mapgen hasn't changed much since 0.4.12 though...

[AgentNagel42]

ooh look a turtle it's so cute! wait why is it flashing? 'explodes', 'dies' :P

+1 on the weather, rain looks really nice but the particles stay on the ground for a little bit so its looks like
needles falling from the sky. lol :P

[kaadmy]

[...]rain looks really nice but the particles stay on the ground for a little bit so its looks like
needles falling from the sky. lol :P

I can't do much about that, I use particles, which I can make go through nodes, which results in raining indoors, I can make them disappear sooner, which is ugly when looking down near a tallish cliff. So for now, I can't do much about that :(

[eduardomezencio]

kaadmy, I'm starting to believe that in different OSs the random number generator behaves differently. To be more specific, I think it has something to do with the C library implementation your OS uses, because the lua random generator calls the C rand() function. What's your OS? Could you test what are the 5 first numbers generated after seeding the number 100? Here's my result:

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> math.randomseed(100)
> math.random()
0.28494340414181
> math.random()
0.24060135660693
> math.random()
0.48412656597793
> math.random()
0.37579324841499
> math.random()
0.053702678065747

[kaadmy]

I use PsuedoRandoms for almost everything, and those are built-in to Minetest.
The village placement/generation should to entirely done with psuedo random.

[b]Edit:[b] My Lua random results:

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> math.randomseed(100)
> print(math.random())
0.2849434042745
> print(math.random())
0.24060135671897
> print(math.random())
0.48412656620337
> print(math.random())
0.37579324858999
> print(math.random())
0.053702678090754


[eduardomezencio]

Is there some serious reason for using PseudoRandom instead of the lua builtin math.random? (sorry for taking so much fo your game's thread with this discussion)

[kaadmy]

No problem about taking over this thread, although this might have fit better in Bugs and Problems :)
The reason I use PsuedoRandom for almost everything is that with th same see, everything is always the same, so you can duplicate the complete world with just the seed. Although mapgen decorations might use non PsuedoRandom, and I use decorations for village spawning...

[Soudon]

Ok the one thing I like about this is the fact you can shift click items in your inventory. I want to take the inventory system to minetestgame but for 4.12 as I have perfectly working x256 mob textures and they just don't work as they are all .x mesh and I can't get them to work with .b3d even changing the line character.b3d in the lua to .x doesnt seem to help. as the mesh I use for my mobs is the character.x from 4.12 just renamed to the mob. Works well in 4.12 but on 4.13 it just doesnt. so If you can tell me how to get the inventory setup to work with 4.12 that would be great.

[kaadmy]

The inventory won't work in 0.4.12, the shift+clicking inventory was added in 0.4.13...
I will make the mobs .b3d meshes ASAP, but they probably will not work with the mods-redo mod, as the animations aren't compatible, and the textures have different UV coordinates.
Also, i'm using the mobs-redo mod, other ones might not work.

[Soudon]

Ok no problem I'm going to stick with 4.13 slowly I'm getting the textures to work I have a custom character texture, sheep, and npc1 its slow going but I'm getting there.

[Soudon]

The inventory won't work in 0.4.12, the shift+clicking inventory was added in 0.4.13...
I will make the mobs .b3d meshes ASAP, but they probably will not work with the mods-redo mod, as the animations aren't compatible, and the textures have different UV coordinates.
Also, i'm using the mobs-redo mod, other ones might not work.

also b3d is the problem I cant open them with anything. I have gimp,paint.net, and blender the best I can do is use the .x

[kaadmy]

If you have blender, you can just open the .blend files instead.

[Soudon]

If you have blender, you can just open the .blend files instead.

True now to find the .blend file for simplemobs sheep so I can set there coords properly atm they are one block too high. I have the blend file of the mob mesh I want to use for the sheep but I can't get the dimensions right I had the texture on the sheep before fine, now its all messed up and a block high I just need to know the coords of the sheep included in mobs redo so I can set the one I want to it so they are actually on the ground and not floating.

[Soudon]

If you have blender, you can just open the .blend files instead.

True now to find the .blend file for simplemobs sheep so I can set there coords properly atm they are one block too high. I have the blend file of the mob mesh I want to use for the sheep but I can't get the dimensions right I had the texture on the sheep before fine, now its all messed up and a block high I just need to know the coords of the sheep included in mobs redo so I can set the one I want to it so they are actually on the ground and not floating.

Going a new direction with this so I'm going to make a thread on my plan.

[kaadmy]

All right, hope you have a good time while doing it :)
Feel free to use any of my image and model assets as WTFPL, sounds are mostly CC0, some are GPL/other.

[Soudon]

All right, hope you have a good time while doing it :)
Feel free to use any of my image and model assets as WTFPL, sounds are mostly CC0, some are GPL/other.

alright thank you and for the most part I'm attempting to not use other peoples work but I will credit those who I do use stuff from. Planing a HD version of the mintest-game all textures 512x256 just have to decide weather to do a realistic approach or like a "toony" look.

[paramat]

Just played this for the first time, stunning, i love the textures. The rain is good and seems surprisingly lightweight, good use of skybox for rainclouds.
We really need more subgames to bundle with Minetest, i will certainly be supporting this one.

[paramat]

water_level = 0
This is better set to 1 as normal, the reason is a water surface at 0 is at mapblock borders, this slows down the appearence of the water surface when exploring the world.

[Soudon]

Just a preview of what I am working on I added a HD version of the carbonsteel armor just as a test run here is how it turned out.

carbonsteel armor

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[Ivà]

We really need more subgames to bundle with Minetest, i will certainly be supporting this one.

+1, it's a great game.

[kaadmy]

Thanks for all the compliments :)

water_level = 0
This is better set to 1 as normal, the reason is a water surface at 0 is at mapblock borders, this slows down the appearence of the water surface when exploring the world.

Ah, I didn't realize that, i'll change it back to 1.

[Soudon]

Thanks for all the compliments :)

water_level = 0
This is better set to 1 as normal, the reason is a water surface at 0 is at mapblock borders, this slows down the appearence of the water surface when exploring the world.

Ah, I didn't realize that, i'll change it back to 1.

If you want I can give you a link I added swords back into the game I kept the spears just added swords as well. Let me know.

I also updated the recipes for each so it goes
"", "group:planks", ""
"", "group:planks", ""
"default:fiber", "default:stick", "default:fiber"

and that is for the wood sword obviously

[kaadmy]

I think i'll just keep spears for now, although the crafting is messy right now.

[Soudon]

I think i'll just keep spears for now, although the crafting is messy right now.

The crafting is too bad I don't think had to look what the recipes were but after that it was pretty simple just a matter of getting used to that setup, as in minecraft it is different just something to get used to wasn't too bad I like it.

Currently working on adding a 3d model for the swords for now if I can iron that out I'll do it for tools too so they aren't so small. Because currently the way swords or spears are they look like daggers lol.

[kaadmy]

Yes, also, do you mean model, or image?

[Soudon]

I meant model but I figured out the easy way underneath each sword below the description line I put
wield_scale = {x=1,y=3,z=2},

solved the dagger look.

Also if you want to simplify your recipes an easier method but still using fiber would be and I'm going to use the wooden pick as an example but

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             plank,plank,plank
            ""     fiber     ""
            ""     stick     ""

That would be "cleaner"

[kaadmy]

Also if you want to simplify your recipes an easier method but still using fiber would be and I'm going to use the wooden pick as an example
[...]

I'll do that, see if it makes it intuitive to craft.