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I know tenplus1 asked something similar but I didn't see a satisfying answers ( I hope I didn't miss anything) so I'll ask anyways. I was wondering when the official minetest build on google play is going to be updated to 4.14. I read somewhere that the singleplayer mode is still 4.12 on G-play but 4.13 on F-droid (I think that's what it was called) but the multiplayer clients are both 4.13, is this true?

> What, has this ancient bug still not been fixed yet?

Spawning has recently been much improved, with dedicated spawn functions for each mapgen. However i wrote that just because when you use custom parameters any mapgen can possibly become so extreme that the spawn method fails.
As always, when experimenting, you should be prepared for a failed spawn. Then later, if setting up a world for other players or your own use, you can shift or adjust the terrain to make sure spawn works.

Mainpage, no idea, remember 0.4.14 is still in development.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but here are a few long-standing and annoying entity related bugs that I would like to see added to the 0.4.14 milestone.

#2813 Attachments experience movement delays, triggered randomly

#3681 After set_attach attached model may disappear

#2738 Make the player collisionbox settable

And yes, I consider #2738 a bug, since the object definition field is named 'collisionbox' but only the selection box changes for players. This behaviour should at very least be documented.

Other than that 0.4.14 looks like a very promising release, I have already seen some significant performance increases in recent dev builds and it looks like there is still more to come. Keep up the good work :-)

Is there any chance that Minetest 0.4.14 includes the Tutorial subgame?
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3778

BTW, tomorrow I will release a tutorial update.

Maybe it's too late for this, but can we please have obisidian glass panes?

BBmine wrote:Maybe it's too late for this, but can we please have obisidian glass panes?

file it as an issue. I'm currently redoing xpanes, so at least we can track it.

Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll love Minetest tomorrow!

I would like to make a few requests:
Snowblock as seabed of glacier biome
Extending the ice until Y=-113
Make ice appear under the seabed of glaciers

First of all, the sandstone grassland biome has sandstone all the way through -113 and so does desert stone in desert biome. Ice is the glacier equivalent of stone in Forests.

Secondly, the seabed of all biomes are sand which is boring but gravel is too ugly to be a seabed. Therefore snowblock should be used as the seabed of glacier biome. (Snowblock as seabed of glaciers can also indicate the biome border)

At last, sandstone can be found beneath the sand in sandstone grassland oceans. So should the ice.

Which is something like this:

Feature freeze is on 23 March and will be roughly 2 weeks.

Does that mean it will be released on 23 March instead of 20 March?

Before a version is released, we need to check it for bugs. The method we use is a feature freeze. This is a time period before a release where no new features are added, the only thing added are bug fixes. So minetest will be released two weeks after the 23Rd. At least that's the plan.

Awesome! I am super excited about this upcoming release! Thank you for all of the awesome work you have done, my students and I are absolutely loving Minetest. :)
-Mike

can't wait. minetest is awesome!

Yes, testing is important, I already found some serious bugs in Minetest Game in the last few days (already reported, of course).
Are there some features we should test more intensely because they are new?
I also want to invite everyone else who isn't afraid of compiling source code to test.

I've got the latest GIT on my private server, so far seems pretty good (just need an inventory tab API :-P)

I download the latest git master branch, and immediately rushed into the eyes of the new foliage Shader. The swaying of the foliage is too much, half a block on the Z-axis. Looks terrible. What did not suit the old foliage Shader?

Prot - I believe this pr addresses that.

https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3887

So we're looking at April 5/6 now?

Don't forget to check tone mapping if you're new to this release ;)

I updated xpanes adding obsidian glass panes.

One of the big issues for me atm is the controls and general user experience of the android client. By the looks of things this isn't going to be fixed in 0.4.14, so I'm still going to have to put up with players using multicraft on my server. I'm sort of grateful to multicraft for bringing more players in, but there are usability problems with that too. Anyway I'm going to start lobbying hard on this issue because it's causing me real headaches as a sub-game developer.

Please PM me any links if this is already being discussed somewhere.

BBmine wrote:I updated xpanes adding obsidian glass panes.

uhmmmm

Impressive!

BBmine wrote:I updated xpanes adding obsidian glass panes.

For contributions to be considered, they need to be submitted as a PR through github.

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If you want help with submitting a PR, please ask. There are many developers who don't mind helping out interested developers who are scared of working with git. I've also taught classes in programming and trained people in using git. git and github can be scary (and hard to work with), but we're here to help, and we'll try to help if you let us.

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BBmine wrote:--deleted post--

If you want help with submitting a PR, please ask. There are many developers who don't mind helping out interested developers who are scared of working with git. I've also taught classes in programming and trained people in using git. git and github can be scary (and hard to work with), but we're here to help, and we'll try to help if you let us.

I would love the help.
I am scared to interact with y'all's projects so they all end up forks in my git. Really wish I had a better grasp on pr's because there have been bugs and fixes stuck in my git that could be merged with existing code.
FUN STUFF!

maikerumine wrote:I would love the help.

I am scared to interact with y'all's projects so they all end up forks in my git. Really wish I had a better grasp on pr's because there have been bugs and fixes stuck in my git that could be merged with existing code.
FUN STUFF!

Go post in this thread: The big git thread

prof-turbo wrote:Don't forget to check tone mapping if you're new to this release ;)

What this shader do?
Btw water now is just awesome! In 0.4.13 water has been terrible square-glitch..

Prot wrote:

prof-turbo wrote:Don't forget to check tone mapping if you're new to this release ;)

What this shader do?

it greatly increases contrast and colour brightness, resulting in very interesting lighting effects.
light is brighter, which makes snowy fields blinding (very realistic), but it also makes the night and dark places darker.
(also very realistic. especially at beaches - did you ever wander at the ocean at night? the sea is dark and the rest of the world too, only the stars shine bright and the sand faintly reflects the light, taking a pale colour.)
on certain textures, this also increases visual detail, making cobble actually look good as good as it is supposed to be ;)

> The swaying of the foliage is too much

Agreed, trying to fix this now.