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by **Rhys** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 06:52

Let me get something straight - Minetest is not Minecraft. Yes, people do make Minecraft-like mods on Minetest, which is fine. But it's just that many people say Minetest is Minecraft.

Minetest is a open source program inspired by Infiniminer, but mostly by Minecraft. Modding is really easy in Minetest, so this differs from Minecraft's annoying modding. Its really easy to register a node, unlike Minecraft.

About Sam, the 3d Character of Minetest. I saw some posts about Sam, and it's phrase was 'Sam Ain't Minecraft'. A player assumed this in IRC (I think).

It's just that, people always make a fuss about like 'Minetest is the worst game in the world, since it's copying Minecraft'.

Please reply to this topic.

Edit: Sorry 'bout the mistake. Hehe.

by **rubenwardy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 08:03

No shit. Different names

Why are you even confused?

by **Wuzzy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:51

Surprise!

List of my mods · by **PilzAdam** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 15:07

Whaaaat? I always thought it was the same....

by **Rhys** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 18:10

rubenwardy wrote:No shit. Different names

Why are you even confused?

Im not. I am just getting to the point that Minetest ain't Minecraft.

by **Rhys** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 18:10

PilzAdam wrote:Whaaaat? I always thought it was the same....

Think again bro, think again.

by **mauvebic** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:05

Lay this one to rest :P In the past two years i've seen plenty of moves to emulate MCs' gameplay, and every once in a while everyone chants in unison that we are not copying MC, even though it's plainly obvious that we are. None of my guests could even tell the difference, and I rarely have the energy to explain that our obsidian recipe is different :P

by **nolan** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:31

Rhys wrote:
PilzAdam wrote:Whaaaat? I always thought it was the same....

Think again bro, think again.

He was using sarcasm, he is one of the developers, obviously he knows this.

by **nolan** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:31

If anybody ever tells me MineTest is a copy of MineCraft then I tell them MineCraft is a copy of Infiniminer

by **BlockMen** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:49

nolan wrote:If anybody ever tells me MineTest is a copy of MineCraft then I tell them MineCraft is a copy of Infiniminer

lol, Minetest IS a clone of Minecraft

celeron55 on IRC wrote:minetest is a boring MC clone so we're talking about world politics

(http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-17#i_3026339). Ofc that was mainly a joke, but that dont change the fact that it is a clone. But that doesnt mean that there cant be innovation ;)

And honestly, the gameplay of MC is not rly similar of Infiniminer...

by **tinoesroho** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 01:57

Minetest sure isn't Minecraft.

Minetest is open source and free, while Minecraft is proprietary and paid.
Minetest is written in C++ while Minecraft is written in Java.
Minetest has a modding api, while Minecraft does not.

While Minetest is a Minecraft clone, it is based on early Minecraft gameplay. Minetest focuses more on science, while Minecraft focuses on magic.

There you have it.

by **Rhys** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 06:55

tinoesroho wrote:Minetest sure isn't Minecraft.

Minetest is open source and free, while Minecraft is proprietary and paid.
Minetest is written in C++ while Minecraft is written in Java.
Minetest has a modding api, while Minecraft does not.

While Minetest is a Minecraft clone, it is based on early Minecraft gameplay. Minetest focuses more on science, while Minecraft focuses on magic.

There you have it.

Thats where I am trying to get at. :)

by **jojoa1997** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 09:56

mauvebic wrote:http://pinetarpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/beating-a-dead-horse-2.jpg

Lay this one to rest :P In the past two years i've seen plenty of moves to emulate MCs' gameplay, and every once in a while everyone chants in unison that we are not copying MC, even though it's plainly obvious that we are. None of my guests could even tell the difference, and I rarely have the energy to explain that our obsidian recipe is different :P

I agree. I fell ready to close very topic that comes up with this. So many saying the same thing.
Now for my thoughts. Minevraft will always be a better, more complete game than minetest art any point in the future unless minetest gets all the little things done and makes minetest_game more like a game and less like a test run(minimal game).

by **tinoesroho** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 20:35

jojoa1997 wrote:
mauvebic wrote:http://pinetarpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/beating-a-dead-horse-2.jpg

Lay this one to rest :P In the past two years i've seen plenty of moves to emulate MCs' gameplay, and every once in a while everyone chants in unison that we are not copying MC, even though it's plainly obvious that we are. None of my guests could even tell the difference, and I rarely have the energy to explain that our obsidian recipe is different :P
I agree. I fell ready to close very topic that comes up with this. So many saying the same thing.
Now for my thoughts. Minevraft will always be a better, more complete game than minetest art any point in the future unless minetest gets all the little things done and makes minetest_game more like a game and less like a test run(minimal game).

Minecraft is always going to be more complete. Eventually, the Minetest-engine and minetest_game will have matured enough to allow devs to focus on creating a new fork of minetest_game, possibly steampunk themed.* We're about two years from that point, however. Until then, Minecraft will be the standard survival, voxel-based game.

* Because Steampunk is awesome.

by **jojoa1997** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 21:42

What is steampunk and why can't minetest go off into its own way.

by **Evergreen** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 21:51

jojoa1997 wrote:What is steampunk and why can't minetest go off into its own way.

Ever read a Jules Vern book? He does stuff that is related to steam punk.

by **tinoesroho** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 23:43

In a steam punk universe, internal combustion engines - like those in cars - never happened. Instead, the world got more efficient steam engines, and analog mechanisms became smaller. I imagine gigantic robots, better vehicles- basically, like the Roman Empire era, except with vehicles.

And "robots".

by **Josh** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 23:55

I have always wondered why people carry on about how MC is a clone of MT always...
They dont seem to care about Supertux being a clone of Mario

by **nolan** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 00:25

BlockMen wrote:
nolan wrote:If anybody ever tells me MineTest is a copy of MineCraft then I tell them MineCraft is a copy of Infiniminer

lol, Minetest IS a clone of Minecraft

celeron55 on IRC wrote:minetest is a boring MC clone so we're talking about world politics

(http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-17#i_3026339). Ofc that was mainly a joke, but that dont change the fact that it is a clone. But that doesnt mean that there cant be innovation ;)

And honestly, the gameplay of MC is not rly similar of Infiniminer...

I did not say MT was not a clone of MC, I was just making a small joke.

by **Rhys** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 14:31

BlockMen wrote:
nolan wrote:If anybody ever tells me MineTest is a copy of MineCraft then I tell them MineCraft is a copy of Infiniminer

lol, Minetest IS a clone of Minecraft

celeron55 on IRC wrote:minetest is a boring MC clone so we're talking about world politics

(http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-17#i_3026339). Ofc that was mainly a joke, but that dont change the fact that it is a clone. But that doesnt mean that there cant be innovation ;)

And honestly, the gameplay of MC is not rly similar of Infiniminer...

MT was inspired by Infiniminer. :).

by **jojoa1997** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 15:18

Rhys wrote:
BlockMen wrote:
nolan wrote:If anybody ever tells me MineTest is a copy of MineCraft then I tell them MineCraft is a copy of Infiniminer

lol, Minetest IS a clone of Minecraft

celeron55 on IRC wrote:minetest is a boring MC clone so we're talking about world politics

(http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-17#i_3026339). Ofc that was mainly a joke, but that dont change the fact that it is a clone. But that doesnt mean that there cant be innovation ;)

And honestly, the gameplay of MC is not rly similar of Infiniminer...

MT was inspired by Infiniminer. :).

Everything is inspired by life. Now can we please stop repeating each other.

by **Evergreen** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 15:29

jojoa1997 wrote:
Rhys wrote:
BlockMen wrote:
lol, Minetest IS a clone of Minecraft

(http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-17#i_3026339). Ofc that was mainly a joke, but that dont change the fact that it is a clone. But that doesnt mean that there cant be innovation ;)

And honestly, the gameplay of MC is not rly similar of Infiniminer...

MT was inspired by Infiniminer. :).
Everything is inspired by life. Now can we please stop repeating each other.

Exactly, everything is a remix.

by **general3214** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 18:21

XD I never knew the player's name was Sam. I'm new to Minetest, so I have yet to learn its differences with Minecraft.

by **Claire** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 21:57

Minetest in not Minecraft...

Yay! Im apart of this conversation! :D

by **Rhys** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 06:29

general3214 wrote:XD I never knew the player's name was Sam. I'm new to Minetest, so I have yet to learn its differences with Minecraft.

I was like this when I started too general. You'll get used to the Minetest experience soon. :)

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