Minetest is in development for Wikipedia!

[Gambit]

What about a Wikia? Not sure if that's allowed but who knows.

[Calinou]

What about a Wikia? Not sure if that's allowed but who knows.

Wikia is terrible; lots of ads and slow loading. Remember, we already have our own Minetest wiki.

[Louis]

Hey, I think Minetest is awesome and quite notable for Wikipedia. Is someone going to consider recreating the article? Please?

[Calinou]

Hey, I think Minetest is awesome and quite notable for Wikipedia. Is someone going to consider recreating the article? Please?

That's not what the Wikipedia admins say, though. 8)

[rubenwardy]

Hey, I think Minetest is awesome and quite notable for Wikipedia. Is someone going to consider recreating the article? Please?

In Wikipedia context "Notable" means that there is enough sources on the internet and in books.

We dont have any of that, the only reliable source we have is "linux game news" and that is not enough for a whole article.

[Louis]

Hey, I think Minetest is awesome and quite notable for Wikipedia. Is someone going to consider recreating the article? Please?

In Wikipedia context "Notable" means that there is enough sources on the internet and in books.

We dont have any of that, the only reliable source we have is "linux game news" and that is not enough for a whole article.

Ok. Also I noticed one of the people who took active part in the deletion of the article (sergecross73) recently became an admin on Wikipedia, which means future additions of the article are screwed.

[rubenwardy]

Hey, I think Minetest is awesome and quite notable for Wikipedia. Is someone going to consider recreating the article? Please?

In Wikipedia context "Notable" means that there is enough sources on the internet and in books.

We dont have any of that, the only reliable source we have is "linux game news" and that is not enough for a whole article.

Ok. Also I noticed one of the people who took active part in the deletion of the article (sergecross73) recently became an admin on Wikipedia, which means future additions of the article are screwed.

If Minetest becomes "notable" then we can re-add the article, via AfC (Articles for Creation)

[Louis]

In Wikipedia context "Notable" means that there is enough sources on the internet and in books.

We dont have any of that, the only reliable source we have is "linux game news" and that is not enough for a whole article.

Ok. Also I noticed one of the people who took active part in the deletion of the article (sergecross73) recently became an admin on Wikipedia, which means future additions of the article are screwed.

If Minetest becomes "notable" then we can re-add the article, via AfC (Articles for Creation)

Why not just make the proposal via AfC and work on feedback. I had a non notable article added after two declines. It only took about a week.

[rubenwardy]

Ok. Also I noticed one of the people who took active part in the deletion of the article (sergecross73) recently became an admin on Wikipedia, which means future additions of the article are screwed.

If Minetest becomes "notable" then we can re-add the article, via AfC (Articles for Creation)

Why not just make the proposal via AfC and work on feedback. I had a non notable article added after two declines. It only took about a week.

We could do, but we need to find more sources for it: reliable one.

[Louis]

http://bit.ly/WQ4vbT

That is a google search which minus' all near not notable sources and minetest/c55.me.

Add a few of those and the article will be easy to develop from there.

[rubenwardy]

http://bit.ly/WQ4vbT

That is a google search which minus' all near not notable sources and minetest/c55.me.

Add a few of those and the article will be easy to develop from there.

Those are still unnotable source. Most quote the website, and one is my website. None are official reviewers, etc

[srifqi]

Those are still unnotable source. Most quote the website, and one is my website. None are official reviewers, etc

How if we quote from Minetest Official Wiki?

[rubenwardy]

Not a reliable source.

[Dragonop]

I suggest to add Voxel-based genre

[Dragonop]

The ''External Link'' to the MT wiki is a link to the old one, the new wiki is http://wiki.minetest.net/ (in the Wikipedia MT page it shows a link to the .com wiki)

[lag01]

I think, Minetest deserves at least simple English article on Wikipedia!

My-be now, in context of purchase of Mojang, minetest could have enough citations for wikipedia article?
Here what i have found after briefly googling(just picked something, what looked like article...):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... obile.FREE
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Sources need to be notable. They can not be wikis, blogs or forum.

Oh well, thank you for info. I hope at least Google Play page is notable?

I have read candidate article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest and my opinion about it is, that it is little too detailed for wikipedia. For example Survival/Creative mode sections can be omitted, may-be Gameplay section can be split in actual Gameplay and in Engine technical details. Also there is some unnecessary details about inventory, player permissions...
Can someone, please, create simple ENG Wikipedia article?

[rubenwardy]

Sources need to be notable. They can not be wikis, blogs or forum.

A note to everyone: do not create a minetest page on Wikipedia. Instead, use your personal working directory or AfC.

[Linuxdirk]

[…] it is little too detailed for wikipedia.

Yes, it’s always possible to stupid something down, but why?

[lag01]

[…] it is little too detailed for wikipedia.

Yes, it’s always possible to stupid something down, but why?

Well, i think it is better to have at least simple Wikipedia article with basic info about minetest, that no article at all...

[Linuxdirk]

Well, i think it is better to have at least simple Wikipedia article with basic info about minetest, that no article at all...

Maybe I don’t get the problem, but since there is already a very good German article, why not simply translate it?

[lag01]

Maybe I don’t get the problem, but since there is already a very good German article, why not simply translate it?

Maybe, to deserve English article of huge size as German article is now, topic must be really world-wide known and recognized?
Many popular free software get along with modest pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Zip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GParted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_%28software%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PuTTY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonezilla
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatra_PDF

[Krock]

Maybe I don’t get the problem, but since there is already a very good German article, why not simply translate it?

That's a good idea. The german article contains many good explanations about the gameplay and the extentions (mods, texture packs, ..)

[4aiman]

I'm not trying to say, that the article is bad or anything even partially like that, but...

It's cool and stuff, but Wiki should not trick it's reader to believe that default minetest game has mobs.

Also, wiki states that a player can craft food. For now the only craftable food in the minetest_game is bread.

Tools made out of better materials (such as iron instead of wood or stone) perform their tasks more quickly and can be used for a longer period before breaking

- it's 100% true only for minetest_game.
"AND"?
Some games had slowed down extra-durable tools in order to balance them (like magichet) or have a more quick tools but not so durable (like gold ones).
Ergo, either "better"<>''faster" or "more durable"<>"better". Which one is it? Or where the notion that by default we're speaking about the minetest_game?

Now, about the following one I'm really curious:

(assuming the player doesn't periodically repair them)

Please, tell me, since what version of minetest_game it's possible to fix tools and what one to do in order to fix a tool?


What I'm trying to convey is that wiki should either stick to the default game (minetest_game) and describe it or heve notions about mods everywhere it is necessary to.
I like the general idea of having a page on wikipedia, but if one speaks of monsters - there should be a link to at least one mod that adds mobs as well as notion that it is to be downloaded separately and that Minetest itself does not hold any responsibility for the 3rd party mods.

[Evergreen]

I'm not trying to say, that the article is bad or anything even partially like that, but...

It's cool and stuff, but Wiki should not trick it's reader to believe that default minetest game has mobs.

Also, wiki states that a player can craft food. For now the only craftable food in the minetest_game is bread.

Tools made out of better materials (such as iron instead of wood or stone) perform their tasks more quickly and can be used for a longer period before breaking

- it's 100% true only for minetest_game.
"AND"?
Some games had slowed down extra-durable tools in order to balance them (like magichet) or have a more quick tools but not so durable (like gold ones).
Ergo, either "better"<>''faster" or "more durable"<>"better". Which one is it? Or where the notion that by default we're speaking about the minetest_game?

Now, about the following one I'm really curious:

(assuming the player doesn't periodically repair them)

Please, tell me, since what version of minetest_game it's possible to fix tools and what one to do in order to fix a tool?


What I'm trying to convey is that wiki should either stick to the default game (minetest_game) and describe it or heve notions about mods everywhere it is necessary to.
I like the general idea of having a page on wikipedia, but if one speaks of monsters - there should be a link to at least one mod that adds mobs as well as notion that it is to be downloaded separately and that Minetest itself does not hold any responsibility for the 3rd party mods.

It is possible to repair tools by putting two of them together in the crafting area.

[Napiophelios]

Hey you guys are on Softpedia; Minetest was reviewed by Alexandru Chirila Dec 27 2014
http://games.softpedia.com/get/Freeware ... -c55.shtml

Its not a bad write up, but I get the impression he doesnt know how to play/enable survival mode.

[lag01]

Reporters usually don't have few weeks to play and to discover all game features.
More articles:
http://opensource.com/life/15/1/open-gaming-january-3
http://www.chip.de/downloads/Minetest_58379995.html

[rubenwardy]

I'll upload my list of resources into a location where people can add links.

[SAMIAMNOT]

I am now developing a draft of Minetest! http://en.m.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Minetest I submitted it but Jeraphine said I need more "reliable" sources, so I really need help finding sources.

[rubenwardy]

Please don't call us a Minecraft clone, it gives us the wrong impression. Make sure it emphasises the engine-ness nature. Also, don't say "free to play", say "a free and open source video game"

0.2 wasn't the first version, a version called NMPR came before it, although I'm not sure if it's the first. See http://dev.minetest.net/Core_Architecture

This is my draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest
It needs more sources and rewriting. (Removal of "Minetest-c55", it's no longer called that)

Check your references, some links are broken. Also "celeron55" not "celeron_c55". You should also use the same name for him throughout.

[oleastre]

Some random references:
http://fedoramagazine.org/try-minetest- ... in-fedora/
(in french) http://jeuxlibres.net/showgame/minetest.html

Distributed with a magazine:
http://www.linuxformat.com/archives?issue=152

http://www.indiedb.com/games/minetest