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Is it possible to make a smaller size of blocks ? I like how Minecraft looks like, but how about Minetest ? Is it possible to make it smaller ? Thanks !

do you mean small blocks? or making the entire game smaller, so that more fits on the screen?

for small blocks, it's possible.
the moreblocks mod has a tool to make blocks with the nodebox drawtype. it can make microblocks, which have 1/4 the size of a normal block.

for the graphic size, i don't know.

Something similar to Minecraft. I'm thinking to a size of Minecraft blocks :)

Minecraft blocks are a different size?

Quite smaller with more smoother textures. Tbh original ones from MT are terrible.

Really?

I think this is mostly a matter of perspective. I mean, you could make the character bigger and thus everything else would look smaller (the camera would be slightly higher).

If you wanted to make both the character and the world smaller, proportionally, and moved the camera accordingly to fit the character head it would look exactly the same and you would't see a difference in the size of the blocks...

It makes no sense to me that in Minecraft the blocks are smaller because the characters are also almost 2 blocks tall and 1 block thick.. which is basically the same size as in Minetest.

Silwncer wrote:with more smoother textures.

Maybe this is what you actually mean, and not really the size.
Just look for a texture pack that you like.

Will do.

I think what your thinking is the FOV.... the camera is zoomed out by default in minecraft.... so the blocks seem a quite smaller.... Minetest is seeing the blocks as their true size.

Both Minecraft and Minetest are meant to have 1x1x1 meters blocks, so...
I think changing your FOV will help. Does anybody knows how to change fov?

It would actually be quite interesting of nodes were half as tall/wide/long as one meter,... but it would only be good if the terrain scale remains the same relative to the player scale, so the world limits would have to somehow end up being ~62,000 in all directions from origin instead of ~31000 in all directions from origin - or the terrain generation scale would have to be doubled.
However, if nodes were to be made larger, such that the player is one node tall, we would need jetpacks or rocketboots in order to go up ledges (either that or some form of ledge climbing system like in Plazma Burst 2)

Dragonop wrote:Does anybody knows how to change fov?

Field of View can be configured via the minetest.conf file. Setting is "fov = <some integer value>", which is 72 by default. Set it to something like 100, 120, or 150 for larger Field of View.
This setting is a good candidate for the next to be added to the main menu settings tab.

Agree, and thanks, did somebody already made a request on Github about this needed setting?

This definitely needs to be smaller. How to edit conf file ?

Just open the minetest.conf with notepad, it's in your minetest installation directory.
Then add tjhe line: fov=100

I just did it and it's a nice compromise between too much of a distortion (120 is too much already for me, imho) and having a wider field of view to see more of the world.

Perhaps the default of 72 is too narrow.


Off-topic: Do any of you, minetest.conf ninjas know how to make the "F5" information stats show always by default when you start a new world?

Where to add ?

what do you mean? just add a new line anywhere inside that file

Ok i got it .

Ferk wrote:Off-topic: Do any of you, minetest.conf ninjas know how to make the "F5" information stats show always by default when you start a new world?

Sure :)

I've tried this and it doesn't work, it just makes view smaller, i need blocks to be smaller . I have Minecraft texture pack .

A screenshot of what you want would be useful as MT already has everything MC have in terms of the size of blocks: there are microblocks, stairs, slabs, chiseled blocks and much more.

The only way to make a virtual world smaller is to either alter the view (fov, resolution, etc), or make your character big to change the perception (but this last thing would make it different from minecraft, which I don't think it's what you want).

Why do you exactly need them to be smaller, and how do you even know whether they are actually bigger?

It would help if you took screenshots or something.

Are you talking about making the blocks smaller to fit a texture pack?

They're huge, Minecraft have so much beautiful .

I think that maybe we could help you more if you would explain exactly what you mean, because both Minetest and Minecraft blocks are the same size.

Maybe what you mean is the size of the pixels in the texture of the blocks?

Were you able to actually use the texture pack?

Both MC and MT's blocks are 1 metre, however MC are rendered on the screen smaller than MT's, it appears.

I will make a screenshot what i mean.

All minecraft textures are auto scaled to fit the block size with the pixels size scaled same as MineTest. So what you are exactly wanting is not obtainable. Minecraft texture packs can be concervted via. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7946 if that is what you wanted.

No. Game needs faster rendering,more better textures (still looks awful even though i have texture pack installed),also it's unpleaseant to record or even stream. :( Performance needs to be improved as well and also i meant on smaller view on blocks (look at MC's blocks so you'll know what i mean ) .

Silwncer wrote:i meant on smaller view on blocks (look at MC's blocks so you'll know what i mean ) .

No matter how much I look at MC blocks, I don't know what you mean.

Minecraft:


Minetest (screenshot from 2012 but I didn't find a closer one right now)

This is in 2015. Also signs are too difficult to read and also we need weather, it's boring without weather.