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I really like the surface generated by valleys mg, but I don't like the caves. But I like the underground of the v6 mg, especially in combination with intersecting, mines and railcorridors.

How can I get the v6 underground with valleys surface? I tried to use v6 mg with the lua version of valleys mg. But I don't get the same results, for whatever reason.

burli wrote:I really like the surface generated by valleys mg, but I don't like the caves. But I like the underground of the v6 mg, especially in combination with intersecting, mines and railcorridors.

How can I get the v6 underground with valleys surface? I tried to use v6 mg with the lua version of valleys mg. But I don't get the same results, for whatever reason.

Valleys Mapgen (lua) either uses the valleys mapgen or singlenode, so it will never use v6, even if you select it.

Version 6 caves are not accessible from any other mapgen. They're sort of like large caves, with some extra connections. Your best bet is to remove the massive and noise-based caves by adding these to your minetest.conf:

You'll have to have lua caves to fill in the gaps. If you tinker with intersecting's noises, you might find something you like.

Still not the same result. Is it possible to replace the cave code from valleys mg with the code from v6? Or is it possible to add the code and switch between both?

Or, best solution for me, split mapgen and cavegen code and make both selectable independently for all mapgens

burli wrote:Still not the same result. Is it possible to replace the cave code from valleys mg with the code from v6?

Certainly, it's possible. Here's a version of minetest valleys with V6 caves. I doubt if the developers are interested in using them more generally, since most of the mapgens are standardized on the V5/7 caves (basically identical), but if enough people express an interest, who knows what might happen?

Thx, that is awesome. But is it possible to reduce the lava? That is to much. I still want to have lava eveywhere, but small puddles instead of oceans.

DUDE, this is freaking awesome. This is how Minetest should be. Got goosebumps just form discovering the caves in creative mode without mobs. Every time you think it is a dead end there is just one small hole and you find the next tunnel.

Don't dig ... discover

Thats it. That is fun. I'm so excited. This is what I missed all the time in this game. Add your original cavegen and the v6 cavegen to your code and add a flag which one should be used. And if you want to make something really awesome add the intersecting mod in c++ too.

Now we just need a Lua mapgen that places torches and semiconductor rails (from railnet)...

The caves in original Lua Valleys Mapgen are similar to v6 caves, but it's way slower to generate.

Maybe the 3D noise tunnels in the non-mgv6 mapgens need to be denser?

paramat wrote:Maybe the 3D noise tunnels in the non-mgv6 mapgens need to be denser?

I don't know if 3D noise can be tweaked. But I know that v6 caves is what I want to see. It's just fun to discover them

v7 caves don't make fun at all.

v7 mapgen + v6 cavegen = awesomeness.

What about splitting mapgen and cavegen and make them selectable separate? Would be lot of work I think, but give the player more options

Mgv7 tunnel noises are settable but the tunnel width parameter is not settable, it would need to be when adjusting the noise 'spread'.