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Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 17:22
by Sergey
Is there lamp(s) in default Minetest Game? Just lamp to hang on the ceiling, not torch.

I mean default Minetest Game, without mods. Mese Lamp is too expensive — three mese crystals!

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 18:25
by hajo
Sergey wrote:Is there lamp(s) in default Minetest Game?
Mese Lamp is too expensive — three mese crystals!

basic_machines has lights, made from 4 torches.
Just needs a constructor to fabricate them...

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 18:33
by burli
The newest version has a mese postlight. But I don't know the recipe

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 18:42
by firefox
Xanadu has petroleum lamps. they can be switched on and off.
judging by their textures, i guess they come from the xdecor mod.
=(^.^)=

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 19:43
by twoelk
Sergey wrote:Is there lamp(s) in default Minetest Game? Just lamp to hang on the ceiling, not torch.

I mean default Minetest Game, without mods. Mese Lamp is too expensive — three mese crystals!


in default as in "Minetest Game" ?

Nope!!

as can be studied here

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 20:02
by Sergey
burli wrote:The newest version has a mese postlight. But I don't know the recipe

When will new version be released?

Is there a plan or roadmap?

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 20:15
by burli
There is no release date, but you can download the current version from github

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 22:06
by Sergey
twoelk wrote:Nope as can be studied here

"Here" is mese lamp.

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 00:17
by Wuzzy
These are the light sources in Minetest Game 0.4.15:

  • Torch
  • Mese Lamp
  • Fire
  • Permanent Flame
  • Nyan Cat
  • Nyan Cat Rainbow
  • Lava Source
  • Flowing Lava

That's it! There are no ceiling lamps.

Here is the 100% scientifically accurate answer to all release date questions:
http://wiki.minetest.net/FAQ#When_will_ ... eleased.3F

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 01:50
by Sergey
Wuzzy wrote:These are the light sources in Minetest Game 0.4.15:

  • Torch
  • Mese Lamp
  • Fire
  • Permanent Flame
  • Nyan Cat
  • Nyan Cat Rainbow
  • Lava Source
  • Flowing Lava

That's it! There are no ceiling lamps.

Many of these are dangerous for health. And I want to use light in my house. Quite big house with 2 floors and basement.

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 06:35
by burli
You can add the moreblocks mod and use the chainsaw to cut the meselamp into smaller parts. I think this should work

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 17:40
by hajo
Sergey wrote:
Wuzzy wrote:These are the light sources in Minetest Game 0.4.15: ..
That's it! There are no ceiling lamps.

Many of these are dangerous for health.

It looks like you need to use some mod, so how about darkage ?
That has also a decent looking lamp.

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 18:05
by TumeniNodes
Wasn't there a mod that donbatman did with such lamps?
I know VanessaE has a couple of mods with various lights...

Either way, you're going to need to use a mod, or make a very simple one for yourself?

edit: Here you go. I would recommend this, as Don's mods are done very well and, most of them are maintained in Minetest_mods... https://github.com/minetest-mods/mylights I think it has exactly what you're looking for, even though it has to come from adding a mod

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 23:29
by sorcerykid
The question was if there are lamps in default Minetest game. There are only two items that really qualify as lamps per se: a mese lamp and a post light. And yes, I think the mese lamp is ridiculously expensive.

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 00:05
by Wuzzy
Note: The mese post lamp is only in the developer version and was a recent addition.
In the developer version the cost of a mese lamp was also reduced from 1 glass and 3 mese crystals to 1 glass and 1 mese crystal.

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 00:11
by sorcerykid
That is great to hear. This discussion actually prompted me to change the recipe for mese lamps and glow blocks to just one mese crystal each on JT2.

Re: Is there lamp(s) in Minetest Game?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 17:08
by Sergey
Wuzzy wrote:Note: The mese post lamp is only in the developer version and was a recent addition.
In the developer version the cost of a mese lamp was also reduced from 1 glass and 3 mese crystals to 1 glass and 1 mese crystal.

As I already said, mese lamp is very expensive — three mese crystals is needed for it. I know about plan to use one mese crystal. But I think it is expensive anyway. One mese crystal fragment should be fine for the lamp.

For example, torch is very cheap — one stick (1/16 of tree block) and one coal lump. A lot of trees and coal around! And even more — stick and coal lump makes four torches at once.

But what about mese lamp? It says "it shines slightly brighter than a torch". So what's the point of it?

By the way, torch is better not only because it is cheap. It is also passable node and therefore it does not hinder moving around.