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Has anyone come close to making non-lagggy rain.

I'm experimenting with that.
Try this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39772195/rain.7z
You should punch collision box to get it working, though.
Also the model and the texture aren't set right (in fact, texture isn't working at all, and the model should be cylinder instead of what it is now).

THIS IS NOT READY. Just a possible concept.

I think we have, to wait until v. 0.6.0 to have rain.

Why not 0.5

This exists: https://github.com/TeddyDesTodes/minetest/commits/weather

It would need to be rebased to the current version, and it needs to have some kind of configuration/api somehow. Also it should be synced between server and clients, as it isn't yet IIRC.

I don't like. That one because it created lag

Well 0.5 is unknown will have any new stuff that...why 0.6

We should try to edit it the rain code.
Hmm. Admin How do I edit, your's game code to change name, so I when I am done with mine game, I can have it title like that, then having it Minetest?

1. Nobody tried I guess... Yes, entities aren't smooth, but I can't call that "laggy". It's just too discrete ;)
To try or no to try... well, it's all up to you, guys.

2. What's the point of mentioning one-year-old non-maintained patches? If anyone here could+wanted to "tune-up" that implementation, then it would be done already. But the reality is there're one thing that everyone keep forgetting: If anyone who ask of some feature at this and any other topic could write some C++ code, there would be no need of asking anyone. Look at PilzAdam or Jeija - they can and they do. Look at me or joajoa1997 - we can't and we're asking. Please, do NOT get offended. That wasn't my intention.
Yes, C++ is learn-able, but don't forget about learning some irrlicht samples, adaptation to minetest-style code and (in most cases) learning of how to embed lua scripts. By the time one of those who can't will learn all of that and will be ready, Minetest already would have all that things that forced people to study C++. I'm not telling there's no point in learning it at all, but people want to do smth (at least me) right now to be a bit more happy and useful.
So why one doesn't learn it right now either? There could be many reasons. Who is a student here? And who is working also? Who lives on his own? Or who has a wife/husband/child? There are LOT of reasons, why after spending 9 hours at work for 5 days in a week one doesn't have enough free time - cooking, cleaning, shopping, helping relatives/friends with their affairs, looking for his/her grandparents or ill parents, doing some homework before taking examination session, making his/her own projects, writing some lua mods for minetest etc.
People ARE waiting already. The reason they asking is simple - they would like to let anyone who can code that about the fact they want it. Please, in this case ignoring such question is a way better for both sides as well as more polite. 'Cause if there is answer (even "no atm") people will continue asking as though you said "yes, in the nearest future". There no need in showing them a would-be candy if completing it's production isn't on the top of TODOs list.

That's just my point of view and it may not appeal to everyone's feelings. Sorry if I hurt them.

Nice post 4aiman!

I disgree with this sentence though:

'By the time one of those who can't will learn all of that and will be ready, Minetest already would have all that things that forced people to study C++.'

There is such an incredible amount of work that can be done on Minetest that C++ skills will be applicable on it for years and years to come:

After all reasonable features are added there's still optimization and code reorganization. I admit linux is slightly :) bigger, but you don't hear people saying it will be "done" by the time they've learned to program.

Also nice post 4aiman
This sentence cannot be truer.

There are LOT of reasons, why after spending 9 hours at work for 5 days in a week one doesn't have enough free time

I am in a very competative school program (academic) so i have a couple of hours of homework a night and i am still trying to learn lua. Coding is fun but when I spend a long time on a little code then I miss out on the real reason i am coding to make a game better. And if i do all that then i am not playing the game for a couple days in a row and where is the fun in that.

I didn't mean to say that there would be nothing to do. I said that things that people want right now would be done. Of cource there are LOTS of thing that will need their attention. I'm encourage everyone to study C++ so they would be a little bit happier and useful ;)

Weather is something that could be handled client side I would think. The server sends the signal to start/stop weather and the client handles the animation of it.

BrandonReese wrote:Weather is something that could be handled client side I would think. The server sends the signal to start/stop weather and the client handles the animation of it.

That would be better since it does not have to make too much lag for the entire server

jojoa1997 wrote:

BrandonReese wrote:Weather is something that could be handled client side I would think. The server sends the signal to start/stop weather and the client handles the animation of it.

That would be better since it does not have to make too much lag for the entire server

I think that maybe there is some point not to start/stop only but to send 2-3 bits that will tell what type of weather do we have. Not raining!=not snowing!=sunny!=cloudy etc. This way there will be areas with both snow AND rain possibble. Also we can make some thick fog :)

jojoa1997 wrote:

BrandonReese wrote:Weather is something that could be handled client side I would think. The server sends the signal to start/stop weather and the client handles the animation of it.

That would be better since it does not have to make too much lag for the entire server

Yes, if whether is added at all, it should be handled at least mostly on the client side. There could also be a setting to turn of weather on the client side, for slower computers.

However, to prevent cheating, any weather-induced actions should remain.

rarkenin wrote:However, to prevent cheating, any weather-induced actions should remain.

Like what? Well, if there would be disasters like floods or eruptions by the name "weather", the yes :)
I don't see an advantage to have no rain/snow, though, as that would not place or remove any nodes.

4aiman wrote:

rarkenin wrote:However, to prevent cheating, any weather-induced actions should remain.

Like what? Well, if there would be disasters like floods or eruptions by the name "weather", the yes :)
I don't see an advantage to have no rain/snow, though, as that would not place or remove any nodes.

I might be wrong but I was under the impression that rain would create puddles and flash floods.

rarkenin wrote:

4aiman wrote:

rarkenin wrote:However, to prevent cheating, any weather-induced actions should remain.

Like what? Well, if there would be disasters like floods or eruptions by the name "weather", the yes :)
I don't see an advantage to have no rain/snow, though, as that would not place or remove any nodes.

I might be wrong but I was under the impression that rain would create puddles and flash floods.

That would be AWESOME. However, I doubt that atm we can count on anything but animation of snow/rain... :(