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Mega City Project

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 17:42
by bwog
I'm going to create a huge city in single player. (Sorry, but I really don't want griefers) The version I'll be using for now at least will be 0.4.dev-20111204-1. I'm using 0.4 so I can add mods so I can have some more realistic buildings.

The mods I have so far are:
More blocks (Version 2_02) by Calinou
DARKET Mods by darket


No screenshots yet, I still have to install 0.4. :P

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 19:42
by bwog
The project is temporarily on hold until the next dev release.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 19:44
by celeron55
I just want to note that 0.4 can still have changes that will break everything. That is what the -dev means. I wouldn't start such a project using it. And no, backups are not a solution in every case.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 19:49
by bwog
celeron55 wrote:I just want to note that 0.4 can still have changes that will break everything. That is what the -dev means. I wouldn't start such a project using it. And no, backups are not a solution in every case.

I know, so I'm going to stick with one version unless it's absolutely necessary for me to get a newer version.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 20:34
by celeron55
But even the current version can write corrupt worlds when judged by a later version or the 0.4 release version. That is the problem that I am concerned of.

Basically I could always write everything to be compatible, but it always has a small performance and complexity penalty. Even the current 0.4 has code that makes it a tad slower but allows loading old 0.3 and old 0.4 worlds. Yes, even old 0.4s need some compatibility code. 8)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 20:38
by RAPHAEL
I'll have to add my 2c.. I have a very extensive world I used with the 3 versions and using them with the 4 devs doesn't work right. celeron55 is correct to worry. You can build all you want in the dev versions but don't build if you worry about losing them lol.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 20:39
by celeron55
RAPHAEL wrote:I'll have to add my 2c.. I have a very extensive world I used with the 3 versions and using them with the 4 devs doesn't work right. celeron55 is correct to worry. You can build all you want in the dev versions but don't build if you worry about losing them lol.


0.4 is supposed to be able to load 0.3 worlds correctly. Can you describe better?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 20:55
by RAPHAEL
celeron55 wrote:
RAPHAEL wrote:I'll have to add my 2c.. I have a very extensive world I used with the 3 versions and using them with the 4 devs doesn't work right. celeron55 is correct to worry. You can build all you want in the dev versions but don't build if you worry about losing them lol.


0.4 is supposed to be able to load 0.3 worlds correctly. Can you describe better?

To keep this thread from going too far off topic I will send email with info.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 14:13
by bwog
Now that the next dev version is released, I can finally start working on it.

Here's what it is so far:
Image

Sorry it's dark, I didn't want to wait until day and I haven't found any coal after 1.5 game days.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 20:50
by Wolfgang
If you are playing on your own server, try the time command.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 20:58
by bwog
I'm doing it locally so it is my server.

I'm also turning mobs off because I'm afraid dungeon masters will destroy parts of the city.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 01:32
by bwog
Here's an aerial view with text. I would have made the text look more like a road map but Paint can't turn text.

*Image removed, image host replaced it*

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:52
by RAPHAEL
bwog wrote:Here's an aerial view with text. I would have made the text look more like a road map but Paint can't turn text.
Image

Have to comment.. for image editing that's free I'd highly suggest getting to know Gimp. It can be a pain to learn but once you get to know it it can be very useful.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 13:00
by TBC_x
celeron55 wrote:But even the current version can write corrupt worlds when judged by a later version or the 0.4 release version. That is the problem that I am concerned of.

Basically I could always write everything to be compatible, but it always has a small performance and complexity penalty. Even the current 0.4 has code that makes it a tad slower but allows loading old 0.3 and old 0.4 worlds. Yes, even old 0.4s need some compatibility code. 8)

converter should do the job! just write one. :P

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 16:25
by bwog
I think I'm going to start over. I want the city to be more modern, but the streets are just cobblestone, they would need to be widened, so I'd have to destroy the buildings and make them again anyway, so I'll just make a new world. I'd do it as a creative mode city since what I want to do would take ages to do by getting everything myself, but then I can't craft the mod objects because crafting doesn't work, so I won't do creative but I will give myself items.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 21:23
by bwog
This will be delayed until a stable 0.4 release is made. And I guess an image I posted above, which is on Tinypic, was replaced with someone else's image...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 22:37
by sdzen
um nice pic :P

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 23:09
by dannydark
bwog wrote:This will be delayed until a stable 0.4 release is made. And I guess an image I posted above, which is on Tinypic, was replaced with someone else's image...


Haha, thats a nice aerial view of your city....>_<

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 00:50
by Tim
bwog wrote:This will be delayed until a stable 0.4 release is made. And I guess an image I posted above, which is on Tinypic, was replaced with someone else's image...


I was starting to wonder if I was the only one seeing that

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 00:56
by IPushButton2653
I'd love to help when this if officially started

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 04:14
by bwog
IPushButton2653 wrote:I'd love to help when this if officially started

Unless someone can host a server just for this, it's going to be single player only. Although I'll probably release the map.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 00:56
by LolManKuba
bwog wrote:I'm doing it locally so it is my server.

I'm also turning mobs off because I'm afraid dungeon masters will destroy parts of the city.

They did that to parts of my server too.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:07
by Jordach
bwog wrote:
IPushButton2653 wrote:I'd love to help when this if officially started

Unless someone can host a server just for this, it's going to be single player only. Although I'll probably release the map.


I'm quite happy to host it on my unlimited internet.

but it won't be on 24/7

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:50
by bwog
Jordach wrote:
bwog wrote:
IPushButton2653 wrote:I'd love to help when this if officially started

Unless someone can host a server just for this, it's going to be single player only. Although I'll probably release the map.


I'm quite happy to host it on my unlimited internet.

but it won't be on 24/7

When would it be on then in your time zone?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 14:48
by Jordach
Between 7AM (OR 9AM -11AM GMT I might not of woken up yet.) - 10PM GMT.

Will this do? But not until Wednesday, currently I am at my girlfriends until then.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 15:15
by bwog
That's 1AM to 4PM in my timezone, so that would work, since I'm home all day. Although anybody who helps me will probably be either in the EST time or Europe :P

Would it be possible to...
1. Be 0.4
2. Have you install the mods I want
3. Have mobs disabled
4. Me be admin
5. People start with only the shout privilege

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 16:22
by Jordach
bwog wrote:That's 1AM to 4PM in my timezone, so that would work, since I'm home all day. Although anybody who helps me will probably be either in the EST time or Europe :P

Would it be possible to...
1. Be 0.4
2. Have you install the mods I want
3. Have mobs disabled
4. Me be admin
5. People start with only the shout privilege


  • 1. Yessssssss it can.
  • 2. Yup, I am fine, (I am not patching any clients.
  • 3. That can happen.
  • 4. Check. (Then send me email.)
  • 5. That's fine.

  • 6. Do you want the MC 4 Minetest texture pack? (Your choice.)
  • 7. You cannot build unless you have more than 50 posts. (To ensure they ain't greifers, you must email me or BWOG.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 16:39
by bwog
Jordach wrote:
bwog wrote:That's 1AM to 4PM in my timezone, so that would work, since I'm home all day. Although anybody who helps me will probably be either in the EST time or Europe :P

Would it be possible to...
1. Be 0.4
2. Have you install the mods I want
3. Have mobs disabled
4. Me be admin
5. People start with only the shout privilege


  • 1. Yessssssss it can.
  • 2. Yup, I am fine, (I am not patching any clients.
  • 3. That can happen.
  • 4. Check. (Then send me email.)
  • 5. That's fine.

  • 6. Do you want the MC 4 Minetest texture pack? (Your choice.)
  • 7. You cannot build unless you have more than 50 posts. (To ensure they ain't greifers, you must email me or BWOG.

For 4, why do I need to send you an email? :P (I don't have an email account anyway...)

The MC texture pack sounds good, and the same for the post thing if you do need to get permission after 50 posts.

Also, instead of emailing me, just post on this topic and I'll see it.

(And why did you capitalize my username? O_o)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 16:43
by Jordach
bwog wrote:
Jordach wrote:
bwog wrote:That's 1AM to 4PM in my timezone, so that would work, since I'm home all day. Although anybody who helps me will probably be either in the EST time or Europe :P

Would it be possible to...
1. Be 0.4
2. Have you install the mods I want
3. Have mobs disabled
4. Me be admin
5. People start with only the shout privilege


  • 1. Yessssssss it can.
  • 2. Yup, I am fine, (I am not patching any clients.
  • 3. That can happen.
  • 4. Check. (Then send me email.)
  • 5. That's fine.

  • 6. Do you want the MC 4 Minetest texture pack? (Your choice.)
  • 7. You cannot build unless you have more than 50 posts. (To ensure they ain't greifers, you must email me or BWOG.

For 4, why do I need to send you an email? :P (I don't have an email account anyway...)

The MC texture pack sounds good, and the same for the post thing if you do need to get permission after 50 posts.

Also, instead of emailing me, just post on this topic and I'll see it.

(And why did you capitalize my username? O_o)


It sssssssseemsssss capitalized.

Ok, email be fine and post to topic is fine.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 16:54
by bwog
What do you mean "email be fine"?

And the list of mods I'd currently like to have.
Flowers
Gates
Gemstones
Industrial Mod
*Dependencies of Industrial Mod: Mesecons, Secret passages
Home mod
Leaf decay
Morechests

I know it's a bit long, but it will really be helpful to have these if we're making realistic buildings.