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does any one know of a 64 bit minetest build for windows 7 ????
thanks in advance.

Fess builds isn't 64 bit? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434

64 bit is rather useless for Minetest, it isnt a performance increase and only takes more RAM.

btw i think x32 application on x64 system force system to switch context.

PilzAdam wrote:64 bit is rather useless for Minetest, it isnt a performance increase and only takes more RAM.

that may be true but 32 bit wont work for my system (dont know why). i tried a 64 bit version but it is junk and i dont know how to improve it. maybe you could develop a 64 bit version pilzadam

brainiacbob wrote:

PilzAdam wrote:64 bit is rather useless for Minetest, it isnt a performance increase and only takes more RAM.

that may be true but 32 bit wont work for my system (dont know why). i tried a 64 bit version but it is junk and i dont know how to improve it. maybe you could develop a 64 bit version pilzadam

Why doesnt the 32 bit version work for you? I don think the 64 bit version will work then.
And you dont "develop" a 64 bit version, you just use a 64 bit compiler (and use all the libaries in 64 bit). I wont do this for my win builds, because I simply dont want to set up the whole build environment for 64 bit too. And it also has no benefit.

well, on pure x64 linux x32 binary dont work indeed. but x64 windows never pure, is always contains also x32 libs. i most sure, if some x32 app dont work on windows - then just some x32 lib missed. is can be one of lib, on which minetest depend (i.e. irrlicht, gettext etc.) or some system lib missed or damaged. x64 system still can work good in case if some x32 lib damaged.

so what compiler would i use. how about MinGw???

PilzAdam wrote:64 bit is rather useless for Minetest, it isnt a performance increase and only takes more RAM.

No. For me; 32bit = 20-25fps[normal] 26-32fps[max], 64bit = 55-60fps[normal/max].

brainiacbob wrote:so what compiler would i use

on windows im sure about MSVS but think MinGW will also work. so, you choose.

For me, when I first upgraded from 32 -> 64 bit in my OS (on the same hardware, yet), it gave Minetest a nice boost in starting speed, to the tune of 30 or 40% faster.

also i most sure some better performance can be achieved even in case game or app don't bother about x64 - just because compiler can use some optimisations specific for x64 (new registers etc.)

If anyone could give me all the libraries(for x86_64), I'd build a 64bit version.

I've posted updated builds of minetest x64 for windows in topic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87122#p87122 , but maybe its good idea to start new topic in which i will post updated build of minetest x64, or just rename this topic and place it to section where people can easily found it.

Fess wrote:I've posted updated builds of minetest x64 for windows in topic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87122#p87122 , but maybe its good idea to start new topic in which i will post updated build of minetest x64, or just rename this topic and place it to section where people can easily found it.

yeah but in your build the textures are messed up in the inventory. wood looks like water, water looks like wood, and so on. they dont look like that when they are placed but in my inventory they are wierd. is there anyone willing to try and fix this problem

Could you make a new build soon, Fess? The favorite server list was finally fixed.

brainiacbob wrote:yeah but in your build the textures are messed up in the inventory. wood looks like water, water looks like wood, and so on. they dont look like that when they are placed but in my inventory they are wierd. is there anyone willing to try and fix this problem

Hmm, i don't have this problem. Are you using default textures? And which render are you using? With all default settings problem also appears?

Also, there is updated Windows 7 x64 build of minetest (latest commit 098692ef26), firstly try it maybe problem is solved:
http://yadi.sk/d/ey2pTy3x4ZIwV

Updated: Minetest x64 with latest commit 7b41f54411
http://yadi.sk/d/Tyd1JvLa4fFIW

A few very useful updates were made to Minetest recently. The itemdef memory leak was fixed, a video mode option was added in-game, world selection was fixed, a main menu segfault was fixed, and clouds and a progress bar were added to the loading screen.

Do you play on any servers? If not, you might like WazuClan's server or VanessaE's server.

Updated: Minetest x64 latest commit 81c863ac4d
http://yadi.sk/d/Uq37veji4hku6

Yea, sometimes i run server for me and my friends :)

CryAngel wrote:btw i think x32 application on x64 system force system to switch context.

I have Window 7 64 bit, and normal Minetest works fine for me.

Fess wrote:Updated: Minetest x64 latest commit 81c863ac4d
http://yadi.sk/d/Uq37veji4hku6

Yea, sometimes i run server for me and my friends :)

it give me this error?

the apparition was unable to start correctly (0xc00007b)

i have c++ Redistributable 2010 and 2012

Thank you for that build, Fess. That new progress bar for the loading screen makes life less stressful, not to mention that you are the only person making dev builds for Windows that use Direct X. Sadly, the inventory icons bug is caused by Direct X, but at least my computer is quieter when I use it. I fear that this will be eternally denied, but it would be nice if someone had the skills to make Direct X work better with Minetest. I am not the only person using Windows around here, after all.

100best wrote:it give me this error?

the apparition was unable to start correctly (0xc00007b)

i have c++ Redistributable 2010 and 2012

It is mean that you have 32-bit release of OpenAL32, not 64-bit.
I've replaced library OpenAL32.dll which placed in minetest/bin folder, now its 64-bit. If you still have this problem just install 64-bit OpenAL.
To Inocudom:
I've tested video_driver = direct3d9 option, yes game starts much faster and have more performance. But i have also that bug with textures, all them become red-colored, screenshot here:

This problem fixed by disabling shaders (enable_shaders = 0), and seems i have repeated your bug with disapperaing of icons - it caused when i have minimized and maximized minetest windows. On official 32-bit build this problem also take place, so it is not the problem of 64-bit release. I will try to do smth with this problem.

Also, there is updated minetest build with latest commit 2c09e8a84c:
http://yadi.sk/d/18aSyJuL4lYIB

Fess wrote::
I've tested video_driver = direct3d9 option, yes game starts much faster and have more performance. But i have also that

DX 9 is old, it does that with GL 1.X too.
Settings -> Shaders

Could you make a new build soon, Fess? A few important changes were made to the development version of Minetest lately. One significant one is an improved mod installation structure.

Updated minetest x64 build (latest commit bc66f46323):
http://yadi.sk/d/PNci7Iz34zPX7

With the new build you made, I was able to test the new mod installation system. I can say that it is easier to work with than the previous one, but people must remember that mods must be activated in the configuration area of the main menu before they will appear in-game.

Yeah, but some problems with mods which uses deflaut mods from common part are appears, so we need wait until they updates too.

PilzAdam's farming mod was added to the default game of Minetest and plantlife was updated. It looks like 0.4.7 will be out soon.