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Can I get consensus on that people want Sam II merged into minetest_game?

This is a completely REDONE player skin, cleaned up and removed the
noise that persisted from the original texture. This commit makes Sam
look far more improved than before, not to mention the shading isn't so
powerful and over the top.

Noteworthy Differences:

- Sam's eyes are no longer look like Sam is drunk, sniffed coal coke, etc..
- Sam has been considerably smoothed and less noisy.

Sam I:


Sam II:


(From: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/184 )

Jordach wrote:Because I really never finished off the default skin, I forgot the shading in a rush to get @MirceaKitsune's patch merged into master.

This time I added some highlights to the hair and body shading, this makes the 3D player much more realistic and better looking.

(From: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/84 )

Poll note: I should have said: Should this pull be merged?

Jordach wrote:- Sam's eyes are no longer look like Sam is drunk, sniffed coal coke, etc..

Ouch, now i can never look unprejudiced/open minded at Sam I again.

Sam II looks like Sam I his son.

Topywo wrote:

Jordach wrote:- Sam's eyes are no longer look like Sam is drunk, sniffed coal coke, etc..

Ouch, now i can never look unprejudiced/open minded at Sam I again.

Sam II looks like Sam I his son.

The Brits named their Kings / Queens like George I, George II, which were unrelated.

It feels good to follow that as they're unrelated.

EDIT: The eyes looked good when I first drew the skin, I literally forgot to fix the eyes, which plagued my first skins.

What is that brown thing on his head, a helmet?

I think it is his hair.

nomohakon wrote:What is that brown thing on his head, a helmet?

Dan Duncombe wrote:I think it is his hair.

nomohakon wrote:What is that brown thing on his head, a helmet?

It is Sam's hair.

EDIT: Sam doesn't look so pale anymore, Sam II does look better.

Voted "YES!" because Sam II looks more gender-neutral (which was one of the motives behind naming him "Sam" in the first place).

This skin is being used as the default on my server now.

Great job on doing Sam II, he look's alot more natural, he does not look like he has not shaven in years, or does not have a hangover.
+1

kaeza wrote:Voted "YES!" because Sam II looks more gender-neutral (which was one of the motives behind naming him "Sam" in the first place).

Thanks.

Josh wrote:Great job on doing Sam II, he look's alot more natural, he does not look like he has not shaven in years, or does not have a hangover.
+1

Yeah! I also noticed the first Sam skin fix was minetest_game pull 84, Sam II is 184.

Ha you have a spaceman sam!
Yeah looks better but i'm not keen on the 3D hair as i would prefer simplicity for sake of game performance.
I always found Sam's longish floppy emo hair was a good choice for a unisex skin.

paramat wrote:Ha you have a spaceman sam!
Yeah looks better but i'm not keen on the 3D hair as i would prefer simplicity for sake of game performance.
I always found Sam's longish floppy emo hair was a good choice for a unisex skin.

Heh, well Boys and Girls can have curly hair, so the hat layer being used makes it so and gives the player futher unisex styling.

Also, I resemble Sam II: http://imgur.com/a/ckQtr

EDIT: I can't change the title of the poll; so this was supposed to be a question about replacing the current Sam skin, with a more modern and clean design. (NO, NOT WINDOWS 8!!)

I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.

Inocudom wrote:I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.

Hm, yeah, and easy to do in blender. But it then breaks compatibility with out MC skins.

Although, it as stu has said: multiple material lists would help, as clothes could be a second layer, waiting to be used and assigned by the engine.

Jordach wrote:

Inocudom wrote:I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.

Hm, yeah, and easy to do in blender. But it then breaks compatibility with out MC skins.

Although, it as stu has said: multiple material lists would help, as clothes could be a second layer, waiting to be used and assigned by the engine.

Minecraft skins could use the system that is in place now as far as clothing goes and new skins could use an above layer for clothing (and old skins could be made to use the above layer as well.)

Why not use the blue guy? The colours look reserved and calm.

Casimir wrote:Why not use the blue guy? The colours look reserved and calm.

That is Sam II recoloured to look like myself, see: http://imgur.com/a/ckQtr

I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.

paramat wrote:I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.

To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

Jordach wrote:

paramat wrote:I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.

To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....

Linxx wrote:

Jordach wrote:

paramat wrote:I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.

To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....

Post em in off topic, I will try to make them in blender.

Jordach wrote:

Linxx wrote:

Jordach wrote:To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....

Post em in off topic, I will try to make them in blender.

2 problems they're handrawn and i don't have good cameras so the quality is going to suck

Linxx wrote:

Jordach wrote:

Linxx wrote:I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....

Post em in off topic, I will try to make them in blender.

2 problems they're handrawn and i don't have good cameras so the quality is going to suck

I'm quite happy to use GIMP to fix the issues.

Anyways, back to the topic.

Sam II is a massive upgrade. Thanks for doing this!

Sam II is better than Sam I. He has a nicer shirt, his pants and shoes are less faded he has a nicer less matted hair cut and his mouth isn't nearly hanging off his face.

SamII looks much better than before, so why is it not merged yet?

Casimir wrote:SamII looks much better than before, so why is it not merged yet?

PilzAdam won't merge unless he specifically wants it in the repos. He works for himself; and not to the community -- which is against the open source principle of contributing.

Good job man. You always do a good job.

Can I get consensus on that people want Sam II merged into minetest_game?

YES!

Jordach wrote:Can I get consensus on that people want Sam II merged into minetest_game?