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by **LionLAD** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 14:50

So i was watching the new snap shot recently and they said they can do minecraft:stone instead of the item code.....now that seams a little familiar don't you? well idk maybe they did come up with it or they saw our game and like the minetest:item commands better what do you think??

by **onpon4** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 15:36

Doesn't matter if they did. Ideas are plentiful. People who complain about "stealing" (using) someone else's idea are noobs.

(As a side note, I think the way Minetest identifies items is inherited from Lua, not an idea the Minetest developers came up with.)

by **sfan5** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 15:48

onpon4 wrote: I think the way Minetest identifies items is inherited from Lua

Where would lua need a way to identify items?
Anyway, the use of punctuation is not patented

by **rubenwardy** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 16:23

I would assume minetest took the : from c++'s :: namespace or lua's : and over such things.
And because default:stone looks better than default.stone, or default!stone, or default;stone or default_stone or default->stone.

by **jojoa1997** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 19:20

Anyways if minecraft uses minetest's ideas one it isn't stealing because it is an idea(even same names are not stealing) and two that means we have good ideas that are migrating beyond our own game.

List of my mods · by **PilzAdam** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 19:21

Lets just say that Minecraft steals Minetest's ideas ;-)

by **Casimir** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 19:37

It seems they take many ideas from Minetest. But Minetest is taking some ideas from Minecraft too. And by some I mean many more.

by **jojoa1997** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 20:03

How about we say what is really happening and say that both games are building off of each other.

by **mauvebic** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 20:37

Casimir wrote:It seems they take many ideas from Minetest. But Minetest is taking some ideas from Minecraft too. And by some I mean many more.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks so :P

by **Nore** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 20:45

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by **Mito551** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:03

PilzAdam wrote:Lets just say that Minecraft steals Minetest's ideas ;-)

And they also started using rotating items right around the time when same idea came into mt.

by **Chinchow** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 13:57

They also have reddish sand for a mesa biomes although this could have been done by looking at real life.

by **Casimir** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 14:14

... and server-client for singelplayer and single files for textures ...

by **Mito551** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 20:17

next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API

by **jojoa1997** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 23:28

Mito551 wrote:next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API

actually everyone in minecraft wants a modding api. It is annoying having to wait for your favorite mods to update to the next version.

by **Evergreen** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 23:31

Funny, I just noticed that minecraft now allows you to sprint by holding a button, not double tapping it.

by **Wuzzy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 00:51

Minecraft should copy the “free software” idea. :-)

Notch was promising to release Minecraft as free software when sales go down. Assuming that Notch spoke the truth (and I don’t trust him), I conclude: Anyone who buys Minecraft is a fool, because it motivates Notch to keep it propritiary software for a longer time.

Edit: Yes! I found the PC Gamer interview from 2010 where Notch made the promise.

by **Menche** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 01:33

Wuzzy wrote:Minecraft should copy the “free software” idea. :-)

Notch was promising to release Minecraft as free software when sales go down. Assuming that Notch spoke the truth (and I don’t trust him), I conclude: Anyone who buys Minecraft is a fool, because it motivates Notch to keep it propritiary software for a longer time.

Edit: Yes! I found the PC Gamer interview from 2010 where Notch made the promise.

I remember when the plan to open-source Minecraft after a certain amount of sales was on the minecraft.net front page. It's gone now.

by **onpon4** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 02:21

Is Notch even powerful enough to do that anymore? I never followed Minecraft, so I don't know much about it, but I think Minecraft has gotten a lot bigger than it was in 2010, hasn't it? I'd imagine that Notch would have let go of any copyrights he had and allowed a company to have it pretty easily. That kind of thing tends to happen. If it did, releasing Minecraft as free software would be a huge project.

Anyway, just speculation. I don't know what the copyright state of Minecraft is, but that is important for how likely it is to become free software (assuming Notch would actually live up to that promise in the first place; probably not).

by **sfan5** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 05:25

jojoa1997 wrote:
Mito551 wrote:next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API
actually everyone in minecraft wants a modding api. It is annoying having to wait for your favorite mods to update to the next version.

Umm... Their Modding API will be in Java

onpon4 wrote:Is Notch even powerful enough to do that anymore?

Notch is not even working on it anymore.

by **rubenwardy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 08:12

But he should still own the controlling share of Mojang, so he can still do it.

by **BlockMen** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:02

rubenwardy wrote:But he should still own the controlling share of Mojang, so he can still do it.

Since he owns "just" 42% of Mojang he can't. http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/minecraft-bolag-omsatte-541-miljoner_6947647.svd

by **jojoa1997** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:52

sfan5 wrote:
jojoa1997 wrote:
Mito551 wrote:next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API
actually everyone in minecraft wants a modding api. It is annoying having to wait for your favorite mods to update to the next version.

Umm... Their Modding API will be in Java

onpon4 wrote:Is Notch even powerful enough to do that anymore?

Notch is not even working on it anymore.

I was focusing on the modding api.

by **Wuzzy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:49

I really should have done more research first … *oopsie*

So I just “reduce” my previous post to its the first sentence, which was the actual point.

Wuzzy wrote:Minecraft should copy the “free software” idea. :-)

(Not that I really think that this will ever happen … ;-))

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