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So i was watching the new snap shot recently and they said they can do minecraft:stone instead of the item code.....now that seams a little familiar don't you? well idk maybe they did come up with it or they saw our game and like the minetest:item commands better what do you think??

Doesn't matter if they did. Ideas are plentiful. People who complain about "stealing" (using) someone else's idea are noobs.

(As a side note, I think the way Minetest identifies items is inherited from Lua, not an idea the Minetest developers came up with.)

onpon4 wrote: I think the way Minetest identifies items is inherited from Lua

Where would lua need a way to identify items?
Anyway, the use of punctuation is not patented

I would assume minetest took the : from c++'s :: namespace or lua's : and over such things.
And because default:stone looks better than default.stone, or default!stone, or default;stone or default_stone or default->stone.

Anyways if minecraft uses minetest's ideas one it isn't stealing because it is an idea(even same names are not stealing) and two that means we have good ideas that are migrating beyond our own game.

Lets just say that Minecraft steals Minetest's ideas ;-)

It seems they take many ideas from Minetest. But Minetest is taking some ideas from Minecraft too. And by some I mean many more.

How about we say what is really happening and say that both games are building off of each other.

Casimir wrote:It seems they take many ideas from Minetest. But Minetest is taking some ideas from Minecraft too. And by some I mean many more.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks so :P

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PilzAdam wrote:Lets just say that Minecraft steals Minetest's ideas ;-)

And they also started using rotating items right around the time when same idea came into mt.

They also have reddish sand for a mesa biomes although this could have been done by looking at real life.

... and server-client for singelplayer and single files for textures ...

next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API

Mito551 wrote:next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API

actually everyone in minecraft wants a modding api. It is annoying having to wait for your favorite mods to update to the next version.

Funny, I just noticed that minecraft now allows you to sprint by holding a button, not double tapping it.

Minecraft should copy the “free software” idea. :-)

Notch was promising to release Minecraft as free software when sales go down. Assuming that Notch spoke the truth (and I don’t trust him), I conclude: Anyone who buys Minecraft is a fool, because it motivates Notch to keep it propritiary software for a longer time.

Edit: Yes! I found the PC Gamer interview from 2010 where Notch made the promise.

Wuzzy wrote:Minecraft should copy the “free software” idea. :-)

Notch was promising to release Minecraft as free software when sales go down. Assuming that Notch spoke the truth (and I don’t trust him), I conclude: Anyone who buys Minecraft is a fool, because it motivates Notch to keep it propritiary software for a longer time.

Edit: Yes! I found the PC Gamer interview from 2010 where Notch made the promise.

I remember when the plan to open-source Minecraft after a certain amount of sales was on the minecraft.net front page. It's gone now.

Is Notch even powerful enough to do that anymore? I never followed Minecraft, so I don't know much about it, but I think Minecraft has gotten a lot bigger than it was in 2010, hasn't it? I'd imagine that Notch would have let go of any copyrights he had and allowed a company to have it pretty easily. That kind of thing tends to happen. If it did, releasing Minecraft as free software would be a huge project.

Anyway, just speculation. I don't know what the copyright state of Minecraft is, but that is important for how likely it is to become free software (assuming Notch would actually live up to that promise in the first place; probably not).

jojoa1997 wrote:

Mito551 wrote:next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API

actually everyone in minecraft wants a modding api. It is annoying having to wait for your favorite mods to update to the next version.

Umm... Their Modding API will be in Java

onpon4 wrote:Is Notch even powerful enough to do that anymore?

Notch is not even working on it anymore.

But he should still own the controlling share of Mojang, so he can still do it.

rubenwardy wrote:But he should still own the controlling share of Mojang, so he can still do it.

Since he owns "just" 42% of Mojang he can't. http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/minecraft-bolag-omsatte-541-miljoner_6947647.svd

sfan5 wrote:

jojoa1997 wrote:

Mito551 wrote:next thing they do: they add JavaScript to supply modding API

actually everyone in minecraft wants a modding api. It is annoying having to wait for your favorite mods to update to the next version.

Umm... Their Modding API will be in Java

onpon4 wrote:Is Notch even powerful enough to do that anymore?

Notch is not even working on it anymore.

I was focusing on the modding api.

I really should have done more research first … *oopsie*

So I just “reduce” my previous post to its the first sentence, which was the actual point.

Wuzzy wrote:Minecraft should copy the “free software” idea. :-)

(Not that I really think that this will ever happen … ;-))