Different soils for forests

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Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 12, 2017 08:27

Since I play Minetest the forests are confusing me. I never saw such a steril forest with lush green grass.

In a pine tree forest I would expect something more like this

http://cdn.paper4pc.com/images/pine-for ... per-11.jpg

Twigs, dry needles and maybe some moss and ferns

In a deciduous forest I would expect more leaves

http://www.wald-laeufer.de/wander.toure ... ubwald.htm

I will try to modify the biomes and create some new nodes for this. Does someone has some suggestions for good textures?

PS: I know the woodsoil mod from plantlife, but that is not what I mean
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 12, 2017 15:47

Made an experiment. I add a new node with a new texture (not the best, I'm not an artist) and modified mapgen to place this node in deciduous forests instead of grass

looks like this

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Re: Different soils for forests

by maikerumine » Thu Jan 12, 2017 15:52

Good news for you:
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7207&hilit=woodsoils+%5Bmod%5D
In this mod there is one called woodsoils, I think it depends on plant lib.

I love the effect.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 12, 2017 16:09

Please read my first post
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by maikerumine » Thu Jan 12, 2017 16:12

burli wrote:Please read my first post

Ahhh, my bad. I didn't see the P.S. part.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 12, 2017 16:22

But you're right, I like the effect too. But that is not my intention
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by paramat » Fri Jan 13, 2017 00:10

I would like a different top texture in coniferous forest that has dried needles, maybe we will.
I would also prefer a darker, richer soil colour, the light brown is ugly.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by ExeterDad » Fri Jan 13, 2017 00:42

Darker richer soil makes sense, but my take on the lightness would be debris and needles/leaves lying on the soil surface.
A new lush grass free, forest floor node would welcome :)
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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:24

The surface in forests normally is covered with leaves, twigs and needles. You don't see much soil. And my color is not brown, it's more like a grayish dirty green

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Fri Jan 13, 2017 14:45

Add soil for coniferous forest. I decided to make it more grayish.

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And a side by side comparison with deciduous forest surface

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the textures are just to demonstrate how different surfaces may look, they are not carved in stone
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Re: Different soils for forests

by TenPlus1 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 19:41

I really like the different soil types :) Ethereal biomes work in a similar way :))
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by TumeniNodes » Fri Jan 13, 2017 22:09

I really like both..., I think you did a fine job.

I especially like the coniferous floor-bed... that looks great. gives a sense of realism.

The deciduous could use only, maybe a few scattered/brown leaves mixed in and it would be perfect

Yep... I'm liking this a lot burli

I have a point regarding pine trees to add for devs... most pine trees in temperate areas are very tall, with no vegetation (actually dead and broken branches 3/4 up)... and then vegetation (pine needles the top 1/4).
Just sayin'..., this might be a really good detail to take into consideration as well for future MT releases ; )

and burli... maybe some ground-pine brush? varying in sizes? maybe sml, med, and lg?
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Re: Different soils for forests

by Gael de Sailly » Wed Jan 18, 2017 19:06

I like the concept a lot.
The deciduous forest soil is great, but I think the pine needles soil is too light and too grey.
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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Wed Jan 18, 2017 21:07

The pine needles is just the normal grass texture with a different color. So it can be changed easily.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by TumeniNodes » Thu Jan 19, 2017 00:07

burli wrote:The pine needles is just the normal grass texture with a different color. So it can be changed easily.


You can have all the pine needles from my yard... I hate them >: (
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Re: Different soils for forests

by D00Med » Sat Jan 21, 2017 05:21

I like this too, it makes it more interesting to explore different biomes.
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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Sat Jan 21, 2017 08:09

I want to add a new node for Jungle, but I think this will newer come to MTG because the Dev team fights against each new node. But it really should because it breaks the monotony a little bit
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by Robsoie » Mon Jan 23, 2017 00:10

That's a really great idea, making more visual variations with the various forests in biomes helps a lot in keeping exploration interesting.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by paramat » Mon Jan 23, 2017 03:41

I actually want new surface nodes for coniferous forest, but i'm not too good with textures, so if anyone has textures for dead brown needles on a coniferous forest floor do submit them.
For jungle lush green grass seems unsuitable, i expect it would be more like bare compacted dirt.
So yes we are not opposing this, please submit your textures.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by AiTechEye » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:07

something like this?
in the spruce / pine forests where I live is mostly moss and needles.

https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?mode=view&id=8678

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:50

paramat wrote: i expect it would be more like bare compacted dirt.

Normally you don't find bare soil in forests. They are covered with leaves, needles, twigs, trunks, moss and maybe some grass. But bare soil you normally wont find in a forest
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by paramat » Tue Jan 24, 2017 05:38

Yes, we need a littered surface for rainforest.

UjEdwin, thanks i'll test the brown one.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by npx » Wed Jan 25, 2017 21:04

What do you think about these?

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Re: Different soils for forests

by D00Med » Thu Jan 26, 2017 00:04

They look good! (bottom one looks best imo)
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Re: Different soils for forests

by paramat » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:56

Bottom one is potentially good.
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:09

+1 for bottom one
 

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:13

I attached my textures for forest, pineforest and just to be complete my own grass texture. Feel free to use it
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Re: Different soils for forests

by npx » Thu Jan 26, 2017 13:49

I've done the same with mine. Feel free to use them too!
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Re: Different soils for forests

by AiTechEye » Thu Jan 26, 2017 16:31

It just takes a few minuts to make textures in gimp, and its easy.

is it too much/litle needels, light/dark?

(It doesn't matter who are using the textures, it's for anyone that want them)


https://www.google.se/search?q=needles+ground&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=583&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnxt_elODRAhXiC5oKHYoWDgUQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=forest+needles+ground

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Re: Different soils for forests

by burli » Thu Jan 26, 2017 17:04

It is easy to make a texture, but it is difficult to make textures that are looking good
 

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