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Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 22:29
by mahmutelmas06
Hi

I dont know if it was mention before but how about

Choosing mapgen dictly in settings instead of showing them in mods section.

instead of
V5
V6
V7
singlenode


this
v5
v6
v7
singlenode
ethereal
amgt
valeys_mapgen
...
...

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 00:09
by qwertymine3
This would require some way for mods to tell the engine that they are mapgen mods, without being loaded.
This would be cool, but would require some engine changes to be done.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 01:14
by KCoombes
A minor code addition to indicate the correct path to check for mapgen mods - which then puts the responsibility of installing mapgen mods in the correct folder back to the user.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 22:19
by mahmutelmas06
Maybe seperate folder for Mapgen mods ? And then the settings menu can read it from there

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:10
by Ferk
But then what about games or modpacks that depend on a specific mapgen? Would we have to distribute the mapgen mods separately from the game/modpack to be able to use it?

In my opinion, the window popup that is shown when creating a new world for a game should be game-specific and moddable. For many games it makes no sense to be able to select the mapgen because it'll get overriden from Lua (and if it was included as a mod like this, it would most likely cause conflicts if you choose the wrong one). Instead there could be custom options from the particular game you are creating the world for.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 14:02
by Minetestforfun
+1,
Good idea

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 17:37
by paramat
Nah.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 02:21
by mahmutelmas06
Ferk wrote:But then what about games or modpacks that depend on a specific mapgen? Would we have to distribute the mapgen mods separately from the game/modpack to be able to use it?

In my opinion, the window popup that is shown when creating a new world for a game should be game-specific and moddable. For many games it makes no sense to be able to select the mapgen because it'll get overriden from Lua (and if it was included as a mod like this, it would most likely cause conflicts if you choose the wrong one). Instead there could be custom options from the particular game you are creating the world for.


You dont have to distribute mapgen seperatly from games.You can still include as a mod in its folder.
For games which needs spesific mapgen can force the mapgen to choose.
And there could be a new feature as blacklisted mods.For exp if a game or mod is not compatible some mapgens/mods it wont allow you to choose it.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 07:02
by yyt16384
mahmutelmas06 wrote:And there could be a new feature as blacklisted mods.For exp if a game or mod is not compatible some mapgens/mods it wont allow you to choose it.


This pull allows specifying mod conflicts.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 14:27
by azekill_DIABLO
maybe add a new way to add mg by puting them in the engine ?

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 19:30
by MineYoshi
it's a nice idea, but many people of here is ok with the actual mapgens!

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 19:59
by rubenwardy
MineYoshi wrote:it's a nice idea, but many people of here is ok with the actual mapgens!


...this change wouldn't get rid of "actual mapgens"

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 22:20
by MineYoshi
rubenwardy wrote:
MineYoshi wrote:it's a nice idea, but many people of here is ok with the actual mapgens!


...this change wouldn't get rid of "actual mapgens"



I mean, the actual mapgens are ok!

I don't think we need so much add ethereal or others...

But if you want then do it!

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 23:20
by rubenwardy
MineYoshi wrote:
rubenwardy wrote:...this change wouldn't get rid of "actual mapgens"



I mean, the actual mapgens are ok!

I don't think we need so much add ethereal or others...

But if you want then do it!


You misunderstand, they're not talking about including them by default.
What they want is when you have Lua mapgens installed, for them to appear in the mapgen list.

Re: Mapgen as an option

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 18:52
by MineYoshi
rubenwardy wrote:
MineYoshi wrote:
rubenwardy wrote:...this change wouldn't get rid of "actual mapgens"



I mean, the actual mapgens are ok!

I don't think we need so much add ethereal or others...

But if you want then do it!


You misunderstand, they're not talking about including them by default.
What they want is when you have Lua mapgens installed, for them to appear in the mapgen list.

i understand it, i only think isn't so necessary, the actual mapgens are ok for many people here.

But as i said before i don't think is so necessary!