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Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:24
by AiTechEye
We can:
1: Hide the name tag
2: Use a transparet skin
2: Remove the colision box (cant be pointed)

Its possable to be complitely invisible (a reason to i made this mod)
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14399&p=213599#p213599

The only missing thing is to toggle it from a button/kayboard like the already exist privileges and whait until people updating their games.

Benefits for mod / administrators:
1: Spy on grifers instead of search in logs that they maybe even not have access to
2: less need to use the rollback (often not helpful if there is more players)
3: make their job and plan without people that disturb them.
4: avoid to distract natural world (moderators / admins dont need to be detected)

What do you think?

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 15:05
by Dragonop
Cool stuff. This would require an option to bind any key from the keyboard to enable-disable options from minetest.conf while playing (like it does with fly-fast-noclip), which requires modifications to the engine, iirc.

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 17:23
by MineYoshi
Good idea!
+100

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 18:57
by firefox
ninja~ =(^.^)=

+1

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 14:29
by Hybrid Dog
It would allow admins to find people flying around using modified clients.

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 23:01
by MineYoshi
Hybrid Dog wrote:It would allow admins to find people flying around using modified clients.



And if the people with modified clients have this priv?


LOL, invisible hackers!

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 08:14
by AiTechEye
they will be detected when someone joins the server or does /status and cant see the players.

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 22:37
by MineYoshi
Think about this: the invisible privilige can be defeated!
The hacker can know where is "hidden" the admin with the teleport priv, also, if who uses the modified client disable invisible quick before admin come, the hacker can say that was unfair because he "supposly" didn't have the invisible priv that time!

If an admin enters in an area underground very hidden, with admin tools, the admin forgot to have the admin tools in a locked chest, the hacker can teleport to the site, and have the admin tools, and destroy everything!


It's better you think a bit more this feature for a next version of Minetest!

Polish it and make it "perfect"!

There are many details you are missing!

Looks like a great idea!

Only be sure that can't be something that can be used for something bad or make a hacker more powerful!

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 00:03
by rubenwardy
Players cannot change their privileges. They cannot tell the server to give them privileges (unless they already have the privilege to use /grant). The reason hackers can give themselves fly and noclip is because the server never checks whether a player can fly or noclip - it's only done client side. The fly and noclip privs are only checked client side, so a player can modify his client to stop his client checking it. A player cannot modify a server to give themself server side privileges, such as: give, privs, server.

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 07:22
by AiTechEye
With cheatengine i can change my ram, to do in servers:
This is possible client side only

Change my position, to teleport myself (often laggy)
Use speedhack to run / dig superfast
Use infer air underwater

I saw a guy that hacked a protected area (the Advanced area protection [areas]) mod

Re: Invisible privilege?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 08:02
by Hybrid Dog
UjEdwin wrote:I saw a guy that hacked a protected area (the Advanced area protection [areas]) mod

It's bugusing, not hacking.


l think there are bugs which only appear if the client sends something unusual.
The coordinates of the view directions of players are all inside ]-1,1[ \ {0}, so some mod may use the view direction without supporting these values, which might can cause a server crash.
The pitch of a player is always between 0 and 180 degrees but values from 0 to 360 degrees are supported.