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I have been in servers where some members bully and insult other members using profane language. Can we implement a blocker that does: bad word to *** ****? on a server plugin?

You can check the messages, but I don't know about modifying them. Maybe have it just notify moderators somehow, or ban / revoke shout.

Menche wrote:You can check the messages, but I don't know about modifying them. Maybe have it just notify moderators somehow, or ban / revoke shout.

Write script to notify moderators + cooldown after using profane languade.

I had started to write one, but it is not finished

Code: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37624#p37624

That kind of approach usually doesn't work. Players will find workarounds against filters almost immediately, and people using harmless words which will get censored due to errors/wrong assumptions in the filter (language is complex) will get confused. If there is a problem with a particular player, talk to that player. Private messages are helpful there and ought to be part of the default game. If everything fails, there is still mute/removing shout and ban - done by a human and not by a script.

I don't like people that swear on servers either. Minetest is a fun game about sharing and playing not swearing at each other.

I agree.

Me too

Another idea, that should be possible with the current API:

1. Disable normal talking by not giving anyone "shout" privs.
2. Make a new "safeshout" priv, that allows the use of a "say" command.
3. The "say" command checks the message and doesn't display the message if it contains banned words.

And an idea to make it harder to find workarounds:

1. Convert the entire message to lowercase
2. Delete duplicates when there are repeated letters.
3. Delete spaces.
4. Check for matches.
5. Make a table of characters commonly substituted for letters.
6. Do several more checking passes, substituting those characters.
7. If no matches were found, display the original message.

Banning "badword" should then catch "BaD WoRd", "3ad W0rd", and "Baaad Wooord".

Menche wrote:Another idea, that should be possible with the current API:

1. Disable normal talking by not giving anyone "shout" privs.
2. Make a new "safeshout" priv, that allows the use of a "say" command.
3. The "say" command checks the message and doesn't display the message if it contains banned words.

And an idea to make it harder to find workarounds:

1. Convert the entire message to lowercase
2. Delete duplicates when there are repeated letters.
3. Delete spaces.anks for
4. Check for matches.
5. Make a table of characters commonly substituted for letters.
6. Do several more checking passes, substituting those characters.
7. If no matches were found, display the original message.

Banning "badword" should then catch "BaD WoRd", "3ad W0rd", and "Baaad Wooord".

Oho! this is useful for those VERY VULGAR people out there. Thanks for all the help

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Sokomine wrote:That kind of approach usually doesn't work. Players will find workarounds against filters almost immediately, and people using harmless words which will get censored due to errors/wrong assumptions in the filter (language is complex) will get confused. If there is a problem with a particular player, talk to that player. Private messages are helpful there and ought to be part of the default game. If everything fails, there is still mute/removing shout and ban - done by a human and not by a script.

Yeah, I agree to what Sokomine said. Players always find workarounds.
writing "badword" as "B@dword" and stuff like this could always occur.
Deleting spaces would also bring confusion as someone could be kicked because he
said "monkey" while he only said "The cups daeMON KEY feature is...
Stupid example, yes, but it could happen.

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I hope no one of the talented people that are actually programming the game wastes their time with this.

Who the HELL cares if someone sees a particular combination of letters deemed nasty by some people?

What could be the worst consequences?

While I'm sympathetic and I don't like seeing foul language, that's not something that should be automated. There's too much margin for error (either people getting banned without deserving it, or people that deserve a ban circumventing whatever method is put in place).

OmniStudent wrote:Who the HELL cares if someone sees a particular combination of letters deemed nasty by some people?

Yes, I agree.

I try to avoid using "bad language" myself, as some people do get offended, but I don't understand WHY people get so offended.

Censoring is bad.

All in all I think that a good server should have someone online who
looks what people do. If someone swears when the admins/mods are away,
players who feel unconfortable can report this to the admins/mods later.
Then admins/mods can look in the logs and ban the person.

Also I never had a case of swearing on any server. Maybe just chose the servers
where this problem isn't present so much / yet.