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Dungeon Masters/Cavefolk Idea.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 20:12
by Miklosher
Well I wanted to show my little idea that involves Dungeon Masters (Or how I like to call them "Cavefolk")

From what I read on this forum many people are thinking that the current Dungeon Masters are too hard/ to common.

So I thought about dividing them into 3 groups.

Here is a shitty picture I made to ilustrate my idea:

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From left side:

- Warrior.
This steel-wearing Dungeon Master is the protector of his folk. He appears somewhat deep underground, but can be rarely seen near the surface. He has the most hitpoints of them all but lacks the ranged attack. He cannot destroy blocks.
Possible drops:
-Steel
-Steel swords



-Minner/Worker.
The most common of the cavefolk. He has the lowest ammount of health of the trio and his attacks consist from throwing rocks at the enemy. His main role in the Dungeon Master society is to dig new corridors, scout the new, unexplored teritories, mine various kinds of materials etc. When undisturbed he will be slowly making 2x2 corridors.
Possible drops:
-Coal
-Steel
-Stone/Steel pickaxes



-Sage.
The palest of the three, wearing tribal tatoos, resides only in the deepest dungeons. He has more hitpoints than the Worker but less than the Warrior. He is the one throwing the Energy Balls that are currently the deafult attack of all Dungeon Masters. He is quite hard to find, and is very dangerous to fight. He never goes to the surface.
Possible drops:
-Mese?
-Something involving magic?


Tell me what you think about this ideas!

And sorry for any grammar mistakes. English is not my native language!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 21:56
by Butt
I like it a lot. Turns a presently terrifying and secretive mob into a society of hostile, terrifying, secretive cave folk. It doesn't force a story onto the game but adds to the world in a nice enough way that I have a hard time finding fault with it.

Kudos on a great idea! I just wish they weren't so goofy looking. Maybe more like gorillas/orangutans in the final artwork?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:01
by Gambit
I like that idea a lot. Although I think each of the different dungeon masters (or cave folks as you call them) should have their own physique.

Warriors would obviously remain big, so that could stay as is (with the addition of the steel armor and such as you suggested).

The Workers might be a little shorter. To add to them, perhaps they could actually mine away stones and such. And because they're miners and not warriors, perhaps they could be intimidated by the player. They would run once they spot you, but attack in self defense if the player is too close.

The Sage would probably be thinner, not entirely sure. But I like the tattoo idea; their bodies would be covered with symbol and such. Attacking with fireballs would remain, but to add to their difficulty, maybe they could teleport in short distances.

Butt wrote:I just wish they weren't so goofy looking. Maybe more like gorillas/orangutans in the final artwork?


It depends on the texture pack. My dungeon master would look slightly different.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 14:23
by kddekadenz
Really like the idea!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 14:27
by Miklosher
Gambit wrote:Warriors would obviously remain big, so that could stay as is (with the addition of the steel armor and such as you suggested).

The Workers might be a little shorter. To add to them, perhaps they could actually mine away stones and such. And because they're miners and not warriors, perhaps they could be intimidated by the player. They would run once they spot you, but attack in self defense if the player is too close.

The Sage would probably be thinner, not entirely sure. But I like the tattoo idea; their bodies would be covered with symbol and such. Attacking with fireballs would remain, but to add to their difficulty, maybe they could teleport in short distances.


Hah.. I completely agree with you. But maybe insted of teleporting (with could be nice on the Oerkki) he could have some kind of magical shield?

I've also thought about the dungeon in witch they reside...

It could be also divided into few types....


Image

Legend:
-Lightgray - stone floor
-Brown - chest
-Dark Gray/Green - stone beds
-Light Blue - Crystal lanterns
-Purple - Crystal Forge (drawn in the bottom center of the picture. Could be used for some high level crafting... maybe the crafts including Cavefolk Crystals could be only made there...)

Top left one:
-Supply Room

Hidden in the earth, those small 7x7 rooms are used by the Cavefolk to store the currently un-used equipment/unsmelted ore etc.
It could be a nice way for the new players to get some early rewards from exploring the underground.

Possible enemies: (Those wouldn't be in use by the cavefolk so I thought they will not be present near them)
-None
-(maybe some Oerkki)

Possible loot:
-Stone tools (common)
-Steel tools (rare)
-Coal (common)
-Iron ore (common)
-Cobblestone (common)
-Rat Meat (rare)
-Smelted Steel (rare)

Top right:
-Warriors outpost

Small homes used by the warriors to get their rest, rearm etc.

Possible enemies:
-1/4 Warriors

Possible loot:
-Stone weapons (common)
-Steel weapons (rare)
-Rat Meat (common)


Bottom left:
-Home of the Forger.

This place is used by the cavefolk to make their armor and weapons.

Possible Enemies:
-1/4 Workers
-1/2 Warriors

Possible Loot:
-Smelted Steel (common)
-Unsmelted Iron (common)
-Coal (common)
-Mese (rare)


Bottom Right:
-The Sages Abode

This place has 4 quite large rooms:
North one is used by the warriors and workers - they sleep there.
West one acts as a storeroom
South or Cental one is the main room. It sports a giant crystal in the center.
Eastern room is the private chamber of the sages.

Possible Enemies: (Sages are obviously met in their private chambers)
-2/5 Workers
-4/6 Warriors
-1/3 Sages

Possible Loot:
-Everything listed above except Mese (common)
-Mese (rare)
-The Cavefolk Crystal (rare)

The crystal could be used to craft some useful things like crystal lanters that emmit strong, blue light or some crystal tools (like diamond in Minecraft but obviously harder to get because of the Cavefolk guarding it)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 20:49
by sdzen
hmm i like the idea of classifying the dm's but maybe not as much the chambers

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 07:23
by Gambit
Haha, that sounds rather complicated. But who knows, it could probably be done.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 23:39
by ThatRandomGuy
Nice idea, man. It sounds like it should be implemented.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 02:14
by mcburgerbob
I think that DM's are way too powerfull right now so i think that your idea is the best!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:46
by wokste
Do you mean something like
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Left to right: Worker (farmer), Warrior, Shaman

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:13
by Jordach
wokste wrote:Do you mean something like
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Left to right: Worker (farmer), Warrior, Shaman


Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh, shaman, did you mean the HULK?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:22
by wokste
I just made the colors different so they would be easily recognisable. Wasn't thinking about the hulk, and looking at it now, we should change the color. Any suggestions?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:28
by rinoux
wokste wrote:I just made the colors different so they would be easily recognisable. Wasn't thinking about the hulk, and looking at it now, we should change the color. Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 19:08
by IPushButton2653
I think I would like to experiment with the dungeon layouts and that crystal forge. It seems pretty plausible. I'll work on a map with a sample dungeon, and see what y'all think

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 20:17
by IPushButton2653
Ok, the main idea is a two-room level. about 10x20 levels, and multiple floors (depending on how it was rendered). They each have a special use. A bar has food/health items, while a forgery would have weapons and tools (and the occasional crystal orb.) A library would house, well, bookcases. And a crystal forgery (a 1/4 probability) would house a sage and a stash of crystal orbs. Crystal orbs could be used to craft a block that would be used to make portals to an alternate dimension. Maybe at the bottom of the world. Just an idea though. Here's the world (sign in as TestUser without a password) http://www.datafilehost.com/download-43df0a91.html
Hope you like it. Tell me if you have any ideas. Happy mining ^^
MUST HAVE OBSIDIAN MOD OR YOU WILL GET UNKNOWN BLOCKS

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:34
by wokste
Updated images
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Left to right: Worker (not changed), Warrior (added sword, made the armour a bit more gray), Shaman (purple, doesn't hulk anymore)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 15:58
by JSonic
I like the idea, the chambers too. If this doesn't get upstream, someone should make a mod at least.