[Game] Carbone [carbone] – minetest_game, improved

[Hybrid Dog]

I don't think your version of itemframes in this sub-game has the following commits:
https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-itemframes/commit/3e696b7e72d5287d07c41438bc4558e16e1b2403
https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-itemframes/commit/841be9f4cfe305579971cd28a254b5873b117244
Could you please add these commits to your version?

you could also use submodules

[Calinou]

you could also use submodules

I don't think submodules are included in .zip/.tar.gz downloads.

[Inocudom]

you could also use submodules

I don't think submodules are included in .zip/.tar.gz downloads.

They aren't.

[Linuxdirk]

Mmh … Is there a way to tweak the mobs? I’m speaking of that red eyed stone mob to be precise.

Seeing one of them usually means death for me. A few weeks ago I learned that it’s possible to kill them with a pickaxe. But since back then it never worked again for me.

I don’t want to disable them completely, I just don’t want them to kill me with three to five hits while I repeatedly flailing at them and hitting them at least 10-15 times (visual and acoustic notification of successfully hitting the mob) without killing them before they kill me.

I like a nice challenge but this is just unfair and annoying … :(

[Calinou]

Mmh … Is there a way to tweak the mobs? I’m speaking of that red eyed stone mob to be precise.

Seeing one of them usually means death for me. A few weeks ago I learned that it’s possible to kill them with a pickaxe. But since back then it never worked again for me.

I don’t want to disable them completely, I just don’t want them to kill me with three to five hits while I repeatedly flailing at them and hitting them at least 10-15 times (visual and acoustic notification of successfully hitting the mob) without killing them before they kill me.

I like a nice challenge but this is just unfair and annoying … :(

Edit mods/mobs/init.lua, search for stone_monster, edit the damage and health values. I will slightly nerf them.

[Linuxdirk]

Independently from that: I just git pull’d the latest version … Is it me or do almost all textures look more noisy now? (Not sure if I like it more or if it really caused by Carbone since I updated all of my mods *g*)

[Calinou]

Independently from that: I just git pull’d the latest version … Is it me or do almost all textures look more noisy now? (Not sure if I like it more or if it really caused by Carbone since I updated all of my mods *g*)

I increased the contrast of some textures (grass and natural stone aren't so smooth in real life). Be sure to enable mip-mapping and anisotropic filtering, if you think it is too noisy.

[Linuxdirk]

Be sure to enable mip-mapping and anisotropic filtering

I’m not gonna do this on my 8 yeas old hardware (even though it works without recording) :)

I’m not talking about the effects that can be prevented with anisotropic filtering and stuff, I meant the textures on their own.

[Hybrid Dog]

Independently from that: I just git pull’d the latest version … Is it me or do almost all textures look more noisy now? (Not sure if I like it more or if it really caused by Carbone since I updated all of my mods *g*)

I increased the contrast of some textures (grass and natural stone aren't so smooth in real life). Be sure to enable mip-mapping and anisotropic filtering, if you think it is too noisy.

I only use mip mapping, what is anisotropic filtering good for in combination with mip mapping?

Be sure to enable mip-mapping and anisotropic filtering

I’m not gonna do this on my 8 yeas old hardware (even though it works without recording) :)

I’m not talking about the effects that can be prevented with anisotropic filtering and stuff, I meant the textures on their own.

I think mip mapping increases performance.

[Damian Adelle]

I've been playing this mod a couple of weeks by now, and I've found this to be the most complete improvement mod out there (although there are some things I would love to see here, like more mobs, more deco items, more random buildings like the ones in Lords of Test), but I have a problem now that I didn't had the first time I started to play in my current map, I cannot craft bronze ingots anymore :S. I put copper ingots and tin ingots but there's nothing in the output. I was able to craft some bronze ingots before, but now I don't have any single clue why. I started my map using some mods: vanessa home decorative, animals modpack 2.4.2, kpg mobs, and this xcoins mod to give some use to the hundreds and hundreds of copper coins I get while doing stuff.
Is there a file I can check to find out why I cannot craft more bronze?. Please, some help would be really appreciated.

p.s. I also gotta say that, this Meze block thing was like a bad joke, I'm fairly new to this mine-world, and then I find these super glowing yellow bricks, and I just kept dying out of nowhere, until I found out some obscure link in google that pointed out to the particular meze block file that says it's just there to screw people to think it's a real Mese block when it's just a deadly trap. Really, not cool :/

[Calinou]

I've been playing this mod a couple of weeks by now, and I've found this to be the most complete improvement mod out there (although there are some things I would love to see here, like more mobs, more deco items, more random buildings like the ones in Lords of Test), but I have a problem now that I didn't had the first time I started to play in my current map, I cannot craft bronze ingots anymore :S. I put copper ingots and tin ingots but there's nothing in the output. I was able to craft some bronze ingots before, but now I don't have any single clue why. I started my map using some mods: vanessa home decorative, animals modpack 2.4.2, kpg mobs, and this xcoins mod to give some use to the hundreds and hundreds of copper coins I get while doing stuff.
Is there a file I can check to find out why I cannot craft more bronze?. Please, some help would be really appreciated.

To craft a bronze ingot, you use a copper ingot and a tin ingot (from the default mod of Carbone, that is, not the one from More Ores); not a copper ingot and a steel ingot either.

p.s. I also gotta say that, this Meze block thing was like a bad joke, I'm fairly new to this mine-world, and then I find these super glowing yellow bricks, and I just kept dying out of nowhere, until I found out some obscure link in google that pointed out to the particular meze block file that says it's just there to screw people to think it's a real Mese block when it's just a deadly trap. Really, not cool :/

I added a warning about Meze blocks on this topic for now.

[Damian Adelle]

I added a warning about Meze blocks on this topic for now.

Oops, sorry hehe, guess I was too excited about playing the mod I didn't read the entire description. My bad.

I found out that I had two kinds of tin ingots:

The ones I can craft to bronze:


And these other ones that look like blue soap bars, that are only good to craft weapons/tools/armor:


I suppose the second tin ingot it's from the more ore mod?, or are they from the Lord of Test?, I still don't know how I was able to craft two kinds of ingots, I didn't do anything special to get one kind, can I disable this?, or I'll have to start a new map with Lord of Test mod disabled to solve this?, I don't have enabled lottblocks though, so I don't know how this can happen. Thanks by the way :)

[Calinou]

Maybe the second one is from More Ores.

I added a recipe in Carbone which uses the More Ores tin ingot.

[digitalmouse]

Screen Shot 2014-12-10 at 23.13.39 by jimm pratt, on Flickr

Greetings! Love the mod - having lots of fun tinkering with various bits. Just running into a problem: using 5 steel ingots in a U shape does not appear to make rail carts. Am i missing something?

[Calinou]

Greetings! Love the mod - having lots of fun tinkering with various bits. Just running into a problem: using 5 steel ingots in a U shape does not appear to make rail carts. Am i missing something?

Are you sure they are steel ingots, not silver ingots?

I could perhaps add a recipe for making carts using all ingots, not just steel ones.

[Linuxdirk]

I could perhaps add a recipe for making carts using all ingots, not just steel ones.

But then you should add different carts, too. They could have different speed and acceleration according to the material they’re build of.

[Calinou]

I could perhaps add a recipe for making carts using all ingots, not just steel ones.

But then you should add different carts, too. They could have different speed and acceleration according to the material they’re build of.

That requires repeating a lot of code and creating more entities, I don't feel like it.

[Calinou]

I made a Debian/Ubuntu/Mint package, please test: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/823 ... arbone.deb

This will work only when a packaged Minetest is installed (from a PPA or official repositories).

[jadedtest]

Carbone is probably the best Minetest sub-game I've played in quite a while!
For some reason, since I woke up this morning, upon trying to restart my server or do multiplayer I get the following error:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'ServerError'
what(): .../jadon/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/default/init.lua:132: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value
stack traceback:
.../jadon/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/default/init.lua:132: in function '?'
/usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:348: in function </usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:336>
Aborted (core dumped)

Do you happen to know how to fix this?
Sorry for being an imbicile...
Thank you!

[Calinou]

Carbone is probably the best Minetest sub-game I've played in quite a while!
For some reason, since I woke up this morning, upon trying to restart my server or do multiplayer I get the following error:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'ServerError'
what(): .../jadon/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/default/init.lua:132: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value
stack traceback:
.../jadon/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/default/init.lua:132: in function '?'
/usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:348: in function </usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/register.lua:336>
Aborted (core dumped)

Do you happen to know how to fix this?
Sorry for being an imbicile...
Thank you!

I can't reproduce this (the game loads fine), make sure both Carbone and Minetest are up-to-date.

[jadedtest]

Sorry about that, I failed completely. I had an apostrophe before max_users in minetest.conf- it was so miniscule admist the text with my font that it took multiple evaluations to finally catch it.

[Linuxdirk]

I could perhaps add a recipe for making carts using all ingots, not just steel ones.

But then you should add different carts, too. They could have different speed and acceleration according to the material they’re build of.

That requires repeating a lot of code and creating more entities, I don't feel like it.

What about a loop for that? I did this for adding recipes for the coins and just iterated over the different materials :) I’m pretty sure that would be possible for carts, too :)

[Hybrid Dog]

l saw that the lavacooling of carbone still has my old mistake: update_liquid is missing

[digitalmouse]

Are you sure they are steel ingots, not silver ingots?

Yep!

[Linuxdirk]

I’m not sure … But what about the strength of the mobs? You already adjusted it a little a few weeks ago.

Maybe I’m doing this wrong, but I think the mobs are VERY hard for not being endboss-like enemies but regular foes :)

Check here for a typical fight (killed me one time before. Please ignore my random talking *g* It’ not about the video it’s just about the fight). I had steel armor except iron boots and a steel shield and used a silver pickaxe.

See health bar at the end … Is it intended to be that hard or am I just stupid? :)

[Calinou]

I’m not sure … But what about the strength of the mobs? You already adjusted it a little a few weeks ago.

Maybe I’m doing this wrong, but I think the mobs are VERY hard for not being endboss-like enemies but regular foes :)

Check here for a typical fight (killed me one time before. Please ignore my random talking *g* It’ not about the video it’s just about the fight). I had steel armor except iron boots and a steel shield and used a silver pickaxe.

See health bar at the end … Is it intended to be that hard or am I just stupid? :)

They can be too challenging for the average Minetest player, I agree. I can either make mobs rarer (good for performance), or make them deal less damage, or make them have less health. I'll probably make them a bit rarer and less damaging for now.

https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/c ... e8efbbd3e8

[Linuxdirk]

They’re very rare already. That’s the third or fourth mob I had to deal with in the series. Maybe they should deal less damage (keep in mind that I was nearly fully equipped with good armor and still barely survived it …).

[Linuxdirk]

Just noticed this …

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13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "inventory_plus" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:326
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "wet_lvl" accessed at .../dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/farming/nodes.lua:129
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "wet_lvl" accessed at .../dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/farming/nodes.lua:135
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "skins" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:220
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "u_skins" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:222
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "inventory_plus" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:380
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "unified_inventory" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:380
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "unified_inventory" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:237
13:22:41: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "inventory_plus" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:243
13:22:41: ERROR[ServerThread]: Assignment to undeclared global "hp" inside a function at ...me/dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/gauges/init.lua:22.
13:22:41: ERROR[ServerThread]: Assignment to undeclared global "breath" inside a function at ...me/dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/gauges/init.lua:23.
13:22:54: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "inventory_plus" accessed at ...dirk/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/3d_armor/armor.lua:277

… and a few more when using tools like the screwdriver or using the bucket.

[Danfun64]

I have a quick question. How do you disable the acid?

[Calinou]

I have a quick question. How do you disable the acid?

Go to the end of mods/default/init.lua, and add this:

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minetest.register_alias("default:acid_source", "air")
minetest.register_alias("default:acid_flowing", "air")

This aliases the acid nodes to air.