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Creative and Damage Bug

by winstonebook » Sun Oct 20, 2013 02:08

So, I created a new world, and unchecked "Enable Damage".

I then checked creative. But when I play the world, why am I still in Survival with hearts???!??!

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What??? Hearts!?!??!? It's fucking survival :(

What's wrong!?!??!

P.S. Why only 1 link allowed?

I can't post all of the screenshots!
 
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by Dan Duncombe » Sun Oct 20, 2013 08:41

Only 1 link because you have the New Member status I think. as for the hearts, well, can't help you there.
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by Rhys » Sun Oct 20, 2013 09:16

What mods do you have installed? If you have creative changer, change the mode.
 
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by Rhys » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:12

Ah, actually...

"Enable Damage" means play as survival...
and "Creative Mode" has the mode to creative...

... You are able to play AS BOTH MODES. If you want only Creative, untick Enable Damage, and tick Creative Mode. If you want only Survival, untick Creative Mode, and tick Enable Damage. If you want both modes, tick both. Thing is, I don't understand why Enable Damage has to be called Enable Damage. It would get rid of the confusion if it would be changed to Survival Mode.
 
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by PilzAdam » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:19

Rhys wrote:Ah, actually...

"Enable Damage" means play as survival...
and "Creative Mode" has the mode to creative...

... You are able to play AS BOTH MODES. If you want only Creative, untick Enable Damage, and tick Creative Mode. If you want only Survival, untick Creative Mode, and tick Enable Damage. If you want both modes, tick both. Thing is, I don't understand why Enable Damage has to be called Enable Damage. It would get rid of the confusion if it would be changed to Survival Mode.

I think its funny how you try to convert the MC modes into Minetest. Why cant you simply accept that damage has nothing to do with creative mode?
 
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by Dan Duncombe » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:35

Creative = Access to unlimited Resources
Enable Damage = Be able to be damaged in various ways.
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by Rhys » Thu Oct 24, 2013 15:43

PilzAdam wrote:
Rhys wrote:Ah, actually...

"Enable Damage" means play as survival...
and "Creative Mode" has the mode to creative...

... You are able to play AS BOTH MODES. If you want only Creative, untick Enable Damage, and tick Creative Mode. If you want only Survival, untick Creative Mode, and tick Enable Damage. If you want both modes, tick both. Thing is, I don't understand why Enable Damage has to be called Enable Damage. It would get rid of the confusion if it would be changed to Survival Mode.

I think its funny how you try to convert the MC modes into Minetest. Why cant you simply accept that damage has nothing to do with creative mode?


I'm not. I'm just saying that sometimes 'Enable Damage' sometimes causes confusion to Minecraft Players. I'm not a Minecraft Player myself.
 
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by Wuzzy » Thu Oct 24, 2013 17:30

If anyone knows some details about the creative mode, please tell me. The wiki page “Creative mode” is still a stub.
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by Dan Duncombe » Thu Oct 24, 2013 17:39

Wuzzy wrote:If anyone knows some details about the creative mode, please tell me. The wiki page “Creative mode” is still a stub.

You get unlimited items, and can break things without a pick. There.
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by PilzAdam » Thu Oct 24, 2013 18:40

Wuzzy wrote:If anyone knows some details about the creative mode, please tell me. The wiki page “Creative mode” is still a stub.

It depends on the game you run. Currently the only builtin (in the engine) function that changes when you enable creative mode is that your tools dont wear out anymore.
 
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by Wuzzy » Thu Oct 24, 2013 18:54

Dan Duncombe wrote:You get unlimited items, and can break things without a pick. There.

Both facts were already implicitly part of the wiki page.

PilzAdam wrote:It depends on the game you run. Currently the only builtin (in the engine) function that changes when you enable creative mode is that your tools dont wear out anymore.

Thanks, I changed the wiki page.

PS: Back to topic:
The initial problem is still unsolved.


So if I understood correctly, the problem is that winstonebook sees hearts in the interface although damage is disabled but creative mode is on. This is clearly a bug, there should be no damage if you un-tick “Enable Damage”, regardless of the other settings. I tried to reproduce this on 0.4.7 on GNU/Linux but I can’t reproduce this.
winstonebook: You should post more information about your system, your Minetest version etc. Also the contents of your minetest.conf would probably be very useful to the developers. Also write what subgame (minetest_game, technic_game, etc.) or mods you used.

btw: There is no such thing as a “survival mode” in Minetest.
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