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i just tried out the new 0.4.11 version of minetest and the wielditems now look realy odd.
see here:

the wieldhand and the bucket looks realy odd to me, hope someone can confirm this. using default settings in 0.4.10 and 0.4.11
Enable and disable shaders does not help here.

also the hearts form the heartbar does look more pixelatet, and not as smooth as in 0.4.10. I hope thats a bug, and not a feature.

only the Cube items look exept of the texturechange the same.

i hope im not the only person with that bugs, and someone can confirm that.

Maybe it's caused by bumpmapping or any other shader?

it happens also with disabled shaders
edit: if I'm using Krock's builds it happens too, but if I'm using direct3d9 it looks normal again

here some specs of my grafic card:
AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series
Driver Version: 14.501.1003-141120a-177998C
Direct3D-Version: 9.14.10.01080
OpenGL-Version: 6.14.10.13283
output of minetest:

This happens to me too, it is because of RealBadAngel's fiddling around.

Blame the commit.
I don't have shaders enabled, thus, I don't have this problem.

BTW, wielded mesh is made by kahrl.... And what shaders have to do with that? Mesh is the same with and without shaders.
Anyway this is kinda strange because on most setups it works perfectly

Using a old ATI card in a laptop as well and I don't see this behavior. Using default settings in 0.4.11 with shaders checked. If I were to take screenshots they would appear as addi's 0.4.10 shots do exactly.
Using Debian Wheezy so everything is old, but since this card is no longer supported by ATI/AMD it's as current as it can be for this laptop.

As RBA said, this is strange... seems like a driver bug if it happens with OpenGL but not with DirectX. I wonder if there is a workaround.

I could see how an older Irrlicht version (pre 1.8) might cause similar glitches in some cases, but addi has Irrilcht 1.8.1, so...

addi, rubenwardy (and anyone else with this bug), does the Anisotropic Filtering setting have any effect?

nope changing the Anisotropic Filtering does not help here.

i just tried out the build 0.4.10-8831703 from sfan5 with that commit: there is that bug, but not so strong. But after playing around in settings, and disable and enable shaders, the wielditems begins to look like in my first post.

its just enough, that the setting enable_shaders exits, it maters not if it is true or false. without that setting the bug is present, but not so strong (it only looks pixelated, but not triangled)

In the build made before(0.4.10-96fcca4) it looks normal

so i think it must be some of this commits:

sfan5 wrote:

+ 24 commits

[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Replace setting unlimited_player_transfer_distance with player_transfer_distance c40e993 http://git.io/6A7iJQ (2014-11-08T14:56:09+01:00)
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Vessels: new textures f06d4b8 http://git.io/ur_ImQ (2014-11-08T17:39:52+01:00)
[git] RealBadAngel -> minetest/minetest: Speed up removing a node (less block mesh updates). d0be274 http://git.io/2jEWIg (2014-11-08T21:04:30+01:00)
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Add mgv5. New noise code, uses biome API. Eased 3d noise for terrain, caves, blobs 92981b2 http://git.io/bSl2Pg (2014-11-08T21:37:26+01:00)
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix regressions and minor improvements in refactor_the_game 1c21e39 http://git.io/qxxQPg (2014-11-08T21:40:11+01:00)
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Stop inserting empty lines at end of minetest.conf file each time it is rewritten cc8d7b8 http://git.io/HgtdsQ (2014-11-08T21:57:52+01:00)
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: New grass(plant) and leaves textures 7e8b763 http://git.io/yebp0g (2014-11-08T22:50:51+01:00)
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: New leaves textures 019b119 http://git.io/VQlMiA (2014-11-08T22:48:58+01:00)
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: New grass textures 439f809 http://git.io/yFvOJQ (2014-11-08T22:48:56+01:00)
[git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: New grass(plant) and leaves textures c41762d http://git.io/gao8zA (2014-11-08T22:54:00+01:00)
[git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Implement WieldMeshSceneNode which improves wield mesh rendering 9b551d5 http://git.io/3qBdtg (2014-11-08T23:11:57+01:00)
[git] BlockMen -> minetest/minetest_game: Revert "Fix fire blocking sunlight" 929559f http://git.io/ims9WA (2014-11-08T23:25:40+01:00)
[git] RHRhino -> minetest/minetest_game: New flower textures a90338d http://git.io/_IcZyg (2014-11-08T23:45:18+01:00)
[git] Wuzzy2 -> minetest/minetest: Add tooltips to main menu subgames button bar 18c583e http://git.io/apnjOg (2014-11-09T09:38:43+01:00)
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Tune cave noise scales to 6. Fix blobs spflag, now enabled. Update conf.example 10a47b7 http://git.io/X56hIQ (2014-11-09T20:21:39-05:00)
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Merge pull request #1825 from Zeno-/control_key_cache a1e9732 http://git.io/q6Q2dA (2014-11-10T19:12:25+10:00)
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Create faster key cache for main game loop (client) 987e565 http://git.io/GXUdGg (2014-11-10T12:26:19+10:00)
[git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Serverlist: announce mg_name from map_meta.txt instead of minetest.conf 0adadba http://git.io/Y24yNQ (2014-11-10T22:27:10+01:00)
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix profiler values not being updated (F6) and not being logged 45ebaa3 http://git.io/OhpSdg (2014-11-11T20:58:57+10:00)
[git] RealBadAngel -> minetest/minetest: Wielded fixes. Add shaders support. f25cc0d http://git.io/o6P7Ag (2014-11-13T03:51:04+01:00)
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Add option 'eased' to NoiseParams 874109c http://git.io/GXKyHA (2014-11-13T23:06:38+10:00)
[git] gravgun -> minetest/minetest: Improved VoxelArea variable locality, thus performance 92815ad http://git.io/CzwHoQ (2014-11-14T00:10:09+10:00)
[git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Remove most exceptions from getNode() (and variants) 5b8855e http://git.io/GmXGJQ (2014-11-14T18:05:34+10:00)
[git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix NoisePerlin3DEased return value 8831703 http://git.io/FILI0Q (2014-11-14T21:19:46-05:00)

I've had this problem as well. I thought it was a terrible looking feature :) and not a bug.

Confirm this.
On Android build (Galaxy S1 and S4), my Win-TabletPC and Notebook.

i noticed that this glitch occures on windows builds. i use linux and linux works just fine

I use kubuntu 14.04, so it's not a windows problem.

rubenwardy wrote:I use kubuntu 14.04, so it's not a windows problem.

could b openGL 4.x

Wield is temporarily broken, a hack was added for the 0.4.11 release.

It think it causes more problems then just the wield items:
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2179
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2035
https://mediacru.sh/8soQTJmg57qR
Is there a way to fix it?

*BUMP*
(I hope its not too old to be unbumpable)

This bug still exists in latest Minetest builds: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1523&view=unread#p181669

*BUMP*
not fixed in 0.4.13

Do you have Generate Normamaps on?

mtmodder148 wrote:I've had this problem as well. I thought it was a terrible looking feature :) and not a bug.

lol, me too.

If you have generate normalmaps on, then the items will look weird, It's a different bug that .11, but still looks weird.

Changing normalmaps settings does not help here. All Settings does not help here, except switching to direct3d9. Then all looks normal like it looked in 0.4.10
and for some reason the switch to direct3D9 in settings tab got removed in 0.4.13

Then I would say that your graphics card doesn't fully support OpenGL. You can still change the setting, but you have to do it in your minetest.config

The problem is not OpenGL, because it workes fine if i use Minetest 0.4.10 or earlier. Also my graphics card supports OpenGl 6.14 while Irrlicht (Rendering engine of Minetest) only supports OpenGL ~4.4. (someone please correct me if this is wrong)

addi wrote:The problem is not OpenGL, because it workes fine if i use Minetest 0.4.10 or earlier. Also my graphics card supports OpenGl 6.14

l want to have opengl 6.14, too, l only managed to get opengl 4.5 with the newest driver

addi wrote:Irrlicht (Rendering engine of Minetest) only supports OpenGL ~4.4. (someone please correct me if this is wrong)

l can play minetest with opengl 4.5

maybe it has something to do with this commit
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/co ... 649aed4799

Hybrid Dog wrote:

addi wrote:The problem is not OpenGL, because it workes fine if i use Minetest 0.4.10 or earlier. Also my graphics card supports OpenGl 6.14

l want to have opengl 6.14, too, l only managed to get opengl 4.5 with the newest driver

addi wrote:Irrlicht (Rendering engine of Minetest) only supports OpenGL ~4.4. (someone please correct me if this is wrong)

l can play minetest with opengl 4.5

thats odd :/ My Minetest only starts with OpenGL 4.4 *confused*

Hybrid Dog wrote:maybe it has something to do with this commit
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/co ... 649aed4799

Maybe. If someone could make a minetest build without that commit, I can say if that solves it or not.

addi wrote:thats odd :/ My Minetest only starts with OpenGL 4.4 *confused*

maybe you need to update a driver

The driver is up to date

https://github.com/minetest/minetest/co ... ldmesh.cpp on the bottom
0.4.11 on 26 Dec 2014


0.4.10 on 7 Jul 2014
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/co ... c/mesh.cpp