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furnace accepts nothing as fuel?

Posted:
Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:15
by srothe
Hi,
first of all: Marvellous game. So simple, yet so addictive!
However, I have run into a problem with my furnace. I use the "tip.tar.gz" version, self-compiled under Ubuntu Linux 11.04/Unity.
Whenever I try to use my furnace and suppy it with anything to roast me a rat, (eg 1 lump of coal, or 10 bundles of leaves), it tells me "furnace out of fuel". As I now start to really get low in health it becomes an issue :-). My mistake? Bug? I have a second game running on a different machine (same OS/GUI setup, but different version of the game) and there the furnace runs just fine, therefore i *do* believe how to use it ;-).
Another question: Being a real-life geologist, I have a somewhat natural affinity to digging deep. Does this make any sense (eg different materials to be found) in minetest? I also love to explore the great caves which I find in minetest. Great fun. (Btw: in the "tip" version I see a cave which is open to the sea but completely dry inside, a real phenomenon :-P ).
Keep on with the good work, and please guys help me with maintaining my health and get that furnace to work again...
Stefan

Posted:
Thu Sep 15, 2011 23:36
by Calinou
Put the thing to smelt at the top left, the fuel at the bottom left of the furnace screen.
TIP: to heal yourself, suicide yourself, hold the sneak key while dying: you will not lose your items, and your position will only be moved by a few blocks.
About minerals, MESE (a rare and precious ore to make powerful pickaxes) is only found at least 64 blocks below sea level. The deeper you go, the more MESE you find. At 20000 blocks below sea level, 30% of stone is MESE! Coal and iron can be found anywhere, and are fairly common. (iron is about 2 times as rare as coal)

Posted:
Fri Sep 16, 2011 05:52
by srothe
Calinou,
as I mentioned above. I *do* know how to operate a furnace. :-)
If I put some fuel to the bottom left box of the furnace screen the message is "furnace is inactive"
If I add something to smelt into the upper left box, the messages canges to "furnace out of fuel".
It does not work in my "tip" installation.
Stefan

Posted:
Fri Sep 16, 2011 19:04
by Calinou
The "furnace out of fuel" message should only last a few seconds, then start smelting. Try playing multiplayer, then see if it fixes it...

Posted:
Wed Sep 28, 2011 20:43
by srothe
After some further checking I want to update my bugreport:
The machine, on which the furnace did not get active even with fuel has been updated with a packaged minetest 20110922 release. This installation works now normal, furnace is working.
My second machine had an installation which I did not compile myself. This one worked well. Today I updated this installation to the latest daIly, which I compiled myself, following the instructions on the download page. Now the furnace stopped workking, regardless of what I am feeding it as fuel. Same effect. It seems to me as if this indeed only happens with versions built from source.
Another point: Would be cool to have precompiled 64-Bit versions for Linux. The only reason to compile myself is missing 64-bit packages. 32 bit packages do not install easily on 64 Bit LINUX.
All the best,
Stefan

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 14:56
by The_SanaM
i believe that I'm in a somewhat different situation, but my furnace does not even accept anything to be put into it? I attempt to put cobble (top left) or coal (bottom left) and it does not go into those boxes, please help:(
EDIT: to be more specific, say I click to put one piece of coal in the bottom left box. What happens is that one piece of coal goes into my inventory boxes as if it were going into the box to cook. The same thing happens when I put things into the top left box, i click them into there and they go into my inventory as if it were going into the box intended to go into.

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 15:36
by Topywo
Which version of minetest do you have installed?
Are you playing with a new version on an older map?
Do you get error messages or warnngs? (make a new debug,txt, and use the furnace again, then look in the bottom part of the debug.txt)

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 15:40
by The_SanaM
I just installed the newest version this morning off GitHub and the map is also new as of this morning. No errors or warnings but when i try putting something into a chest it crashes my game. How do I make a new debug.txt?

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 15:52
by jin_xi
did you install both minetest and minetest-game (two repos)? if not, refer to the readme again. in short, clone minetest-game into your minetest's games folder.

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 15:54
by The_SanaM
Yes both are downloaded and minetest_game is in the game folder

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 16:04
by Topywo
And minimal is also in the gamefolder?

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 16:06
by Topywo
debug.txt --> you can delete it or rename it in debugold.txt. and then create a new empty file and call that debug.txt.

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 16:07
by The_SanaM
yes it is, both are in game folder

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 18:17
by The_SanaM
I think I have done what you said about the debug txt correctly, but the same situation occurs as last time.
The debug.txt you are talking about is that in the bin folder? If it is, mine was originally called just "debug"

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 18:23
by The_SanaM
Another thing I forgot to mention, this morning I downloaded the latest version off GitHub. I previously had Minetest that I downloaded off of Minetest website. The version off of the Minetest website I can still use furnaces and chests in, but the GitHub version is what is giving me the trouble.

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 19:00
by Topywo
My debug.txt is in my home folder: /home/TOPYWO
I use Lubuntu 11.10 (Linux)
I open it by clicking on it. There's a lot of information in it. You should look mainly at the last part, especially for ERRORS.
Do you use windows or Linux?
If you use Linux, and want the latest (working) version, I advice you to scroll down to the readme.txt on the Github-page, look under GNU/Linux and copy paste the lines in your terminal (for the libraries use "sudo" before your paste). For me that works. I once used a launcher and never tried installing it another way. It's 5-10 minutes work.
If you have windows you can use:
http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/?C=M;O=A to download the latest version. Seems to work, but I never had to try.

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 19:09
by The_SanaM
I use windows, Windows 7. Okay I'll check out the link

Posted:
Wed Aug 01, 2012 19:15
by The_SanaM
Wow! Thank you so much! It all works and is back to normal. I appreciate all the help you have given me:)