New Noise Algorithms

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by prestidigitator » Tue Apr 02, 2013 02:55

Huh. Interesting. Having trouble with 2D vs. 3D noise. I can take care of that if you like. Actually I already did. I added a simple method that uses 3D noise along a 2D surface by taking the third coordinate from a pregenerated height map (usually another noise result). Did that for the added terrain and topsoil thicknesses in the mapgen you see above. Cooperative effort is really nice when the door is open to it.
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by hmmmm » Tue Apr 02, 2013 04:19

Prestidigitator, enough with the passive-aggressive commentary. You know fully well why your contribution was not added, and although it did play a part, it doesn't have as much to do with OOP as you either think it does, or want others who are watching the arena to believe. If you don't like "political B.S.", why are you clearly inciting drama on the forums?
I think it's great that you made your own little mapgen, and I'm sure it looks awesome, but we're not exactly starving for your code.
Also, I just mentioned that it was kind of creepy that you're obsessed to the point of watching the channel from the logs. But you already knew that.
 

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by prestidigitator » Tue Apr 02, 2013 04:59

hmmmm wrote:Prestidigitator, enough with the passive-aggressive commentary. You know fully well why your contribution was not added, and although it did play a part, it doesn't have as much to do with OOP as you either think it does, or want others who are watching the arena to believe. If you don't like "political B.S.", why are you clearly inciting drama on the forums?
I think it's great that you made your own little mapgen, and I'm sure it looks awesome, but we're not exactly starving for your code.
Also, I just mentioned that it was kind of creepy that you're obsessed to the point of watching the channel from the logs. But you already knew that.


It's not passive at all, but quite open for you to see, as the whole topic has been since the time I first thought of working on some noise algorithms (real bad communication, eh?). I've spent a lot of time looking over all kinds of things on the logs, the wiki, the code base, and the forums. I have added quite a bit of documentation on the wiki, and help people with mods all the time. Go search for all the posts I've made here, and take a look at how helpful and community-oriented I have been.

I'm continuing working on this personally, on the side, because it is interesting. Yes, I understand fully that you're not interested in it. Others might be, and it is unfortunate that you've worked yourself into a position to unilaterally keep people from contributing to this "community based" project if you don't personally like someone's style. I'm debating maintaining a fork, but probably won't have the bandwidth.

You attacked me from the moment I showed up, and have continued to dis me in IRC ever since. Obsession? You keep telling people in IRC how it was such a great thing that you told me to f*** off, and keep going about how horrible my code was when no one else has even mentioned it. Saying it so often and so vehemently because you want so desperately for it to be true? Does my potential contribution really make you that insecure? What exactly have I done to irk you so, and cause such personal hatred? Feel sorry for my employers? Really?
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by jordan4ibanez » Tue Apr 02, 2013 05:10

prestidigitator wrote:
hmmmm wrote:Prestidigitator, enough with the passive-aggressive commentary. You know fully well why your contribution was not added, and although it did play a part, it doesn't have as much to do with OOP as you either think it does, or want others who are watching the arena to believe. If you don't like "political B.S.", why are you clearly inciting drama on the forums?
I think it's great that you made your own little mapgen, and I'm sure it looks awesome, but we're not exactly starving for your code.
Also, I just mentioned that it was kind of creepy that you're obsessed to the point of watching the channel from the logs. But you already knew that.


It's not passive at all, but quite open for you to see, as the whole topic has been since the time I first thought of working on some noise algorithms (real bad communication, eh?). I've spent a lot of time looking over all kinds of things on the logs, the wiki, the code base, and the forums. I have added quite a bit of documentation on the wiki, and help people with mods all the time. Go search for all the posts I've made here, and take a look at how helpful and community-oriented I have been.

I'm continuing working on this personally, on the side, because it is interesting. Yes, I understand fully that you're not interested in it. Others might be, and it is unfortunate that you've worked yourself into a position to unilaterally keep people from contributing to this "community based" project if you don't personally like someone's style. I'm debating maintaining a fork, but probably won't have the bandwidth.

You attacked me from the moment I showed up, and have continued to dis me in IRC ever since. Obsession? You keep telling people in IRC how it was such a great thing that you told me to f*** off, and keep going about how horrible my code was when no one else has even mentioned it. Saying it so often and so vehemently because you want so desperately for it to be true? Does my potential contribution really make you that insecure? What exactly have I done to irk you so, and cause such personal hatred? Feel sorry for my employers? Really?

Damn dude, you have more problems than I do lol.
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by hmmmm » Tue Apr 02, 2013 05:53

prestidigitator wrote:
hmmmm wrote:Prestidigitator, enough with the passive-aggressive commentary. You know fully well why your contribution was not added, and although it did play a part, it doesn't have as much to do with OOP as you either think it does, or want others who are watching the arena to believe. If you don't like "political B.S.", why are you clearly inciting drama on the forums?
I think it's great that you made your own little mapgen, and I'm sure it looks awesome, but we're not exactly starving for your code.
Also, I just mentioned that it was kind of creepy that you're obsessed to the point of watching the channel from the logs. But you already knew that.


It's not passive at all, but quite open for you to see, as the whole topic has been since the time I first thought of working on some noise algorithms (real bad communication, eh?). I've spent a lot of time looking over all kinds of things on the logs, the wiki, the code base, and the forums. I have added quite a bit of documentation on the wiki, and help people with mods all the time. Go search for all the posts I've made here, and take a look at how helpful and community-oriented I have been.

I'm continuing working on this personally, on the side, because it is interesting. Yes, I understand fully that you're not interested in it. Others might be, and it is unfortunate that you've worked yourself into a position to unilaterally keep people from contributing to this "community based" project if you don't personally like someone's style. I'm debating maintaining a fork, but probably won't have the bandwidth.

You attacked me from the moment I showed up, and have continued to dis me in IRC ever since. Obsession? You keep telling people in IRC how it was such a great thing that you told me to f*** off, and keep going about how horrible my code was when no one else has even mentioned it. Saying it so often and so vehemently because you want so desperately for it to be true? Does my potential contribution really make you that insecure? What exactly have I done to irk you so, and cause such personal hatred? Feel sorry for my employers? Really?

Look, I'm sorry I said all that and what not. I didn't mean to hurt any feelings here. But, I never thought you would be reading the channel logs religiously like that in the first place.
The off-ness in your code was something that would instantly come to mind any time I went to read it. I only mentioned this twice, though.
I am glad you have an enormous amount of self-esteem and that none of what happened dampened your confidence. Keep up the good work, I'm sure you'll make a fantastic Java/C# developer someday with all those fancy UML diagrams and flowcharts.
 

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by prestidigitator » Tue Apr 02, 2013 06:48

hmmmm wrote:Keep up the good work, I'm sure you'll make a fantastic Java/C# developer someday with all those fancy UML diagrams and flowcharts.

Hey, thanks man! I know there's some paranoia about those languages in some corners here (understandably with the Minecraft comparison always looming overhead), so you may not realize how much praise that offers to a C++ developer. I don't know about C#, but Java does offer an environment in which it is somewhat easier to produce well designed and well written code (though of course it is still necessary to use good practices). It takes more discipline to do that in C++ where you have dirty hacks like macros, "clever" pointer arithmetic, and silly template tricks that can sometimes be tempting but rarely actually help in the way you might think and usually just serve to make code unmaintainable.
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