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I've returned with the nature mod pack again! *_^

Now I just refactored it, hoping it will run a bit faster, but I'm taring requests cause don't know what to fix or add to it.

Links

Download: https://bitbucket.org/neko259/nature_pack/get/1.3.0.zip

Repository: https://bitbucket.org/neko259/nature_pack/

Changelog: https://bitbucket.org/neko259/nature_pack/src/ac6b428c5f060230a27f2d49947f3fbf10c56104/changelog.md?at=default

I'm also accepting pull requests.

P.S. Plantlife mods were removed (in the latest hg commit) as they are not updated and can be downloaded from their own repo. No need to hold them here.

Thanks!

BTW, I can't find the old mod thread, so I created this one. Was the forum wiped out?

neko259 wrote:BTW, I can't find the old mod thread, so I created this one. Was the forum wiped out?

The forum has been updated. Maybe the thread was removed, check using a search engine like google or here to find your thread. The forum search bar is not very effective.

Anyways, is nice to see old mods being updated :)

Esteban wrote:Anyways, is nice to see old mods being updated :)

The funny thing is I don't even know if the code is still "good". Maybe some new features were added to the API. But the good thing is that it's still working so nothing was removed :D

neko259 wrote:

Esteban wrote:Anyways, is nice to see old mods being updated :)

The funny thing is I don't even know if the code is still "good". Maybe some new features were added to the API. But the good thing is that it's still working so nothing was removed :D

When was the last version you used? The game now has a lot of cool stuff to be released in 4.11: fire looks like MCs, node highlighting (no more black square), Meshes (3d models) can be used for nodes, and more! :D

Esteban wrote:When was the last version you used? The game now has a lot of cool stuff to be released in 4.11: fire looks like MCs, node highlighting (no more black square), Meshes (3d models) can be used for nodes, and more! :D

Well, my mods were really updated a year or more ago. My mods are mostly for operating the default nodes, so I don't think the meshes or highlights are needed for me. What about farmesh? No changes were made to it and no chance to get in enabled in the future?

neko259 wrote:Well, my mods were really updated a year or more ago. My mods are mostly for operating the default nodes, so I don't think the meshes or highlights are needed for me. What about farmesh? No changes were made to it and no chance to get in enabled in the future?

Farmesh got removed back in 4.8. Im not sure if it is going to be implemented in a near future, but I think there is a fork of minetest that still has farmesh.

Neko259, it is so very good to have you back here with us.

The following forks of Minetest exist now:
http://voxelands.com/
http://freeminer.org/

VanessaE has some aspects of your nature modpack in her plantlife modpack. You should see them sometime.

Inocudom wrote:The following forks of Minetest exist now:
http://voxelands.com/
http://freeminer.org/

Freeminer seems to be dead, there are no updates for very long and no servers in the official server list. But I see voxelands for the first time, I'll check it.

neko259 wrote:

Inocudom wrote:The following forks of Minetest exist now:
http://voxelands.com/
http://freeminer.org/

Freeminer seems to be dead, there are no updates for very long and no servers in the official server list. But I see voxelands for the first time, I'll check it.

Freeminer is active (the download is very outdated), check their thread here. Inocudom can tell you more about it, I haven't used freeminer in some time :P

Esteban wrote:

neko259 wrote:

Inocudom wrote:The following forks of Minetest exist now:
http://voxelands.com/
http://freeminer.org/

Freeminer seems to be dead, there are no updates for very long and no servers in the official server list. But I see voxelands for the first time, I'll check it.

Freeminer is active (the download is very outdated), check their thread here. Inocudom can tell you more about it, I haven't used freeminer in some time :P

If you have Windows, use the following build by Jojoa1997:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz38ss6inw7r4aa/freeminer-0.4.10.3-free-dev-win327039b23.zip?dl=0

Freeminer has a new farmesh feature in it, as well as a HUD minimap. In an attempt to speed up graphics, vbo is also in it. Here, look at my configuration file for it to see what options need to be turned on in order for the new features to work:

Most of the nature modpack got included in the plantlife modpack, as Inocudom already said. Due to the huge amount of plants and the way plants can define how their environment ought to be, plantlife still isn't fast, so there's more than enough room for additional mods. Plantlife creates extremly nice landscapes you might enjoy visiting.

The flowers mod got included in minetest_game/minetest_next, so there's no need for an extra version anymore. Junglegrass got added to default. Cacti and junglegrass are part of default and grow back as well.

It would be great to have a very light-weight nature modpack which adds some additional nature but doesn't get as expensive as full plantlife does. Maybe you can do something there?

Sokomine wrote:Most of the nature modpack got included in the plantlife modpack, as Inocudom already said. Due to the huge amount of plants and the way plants can define how their environment ought to be, plantlife still isn't fast, so there's more than enough room for additional mods. Plantlife creates extremly nice landscapes you might enjoy visiting.

The flowers mod got included in minetest_game/minetest_next, so there's no need for an extra version anymore. Junglegrass got added to default. Cacti and junglegrass are part of default and grow back as well.

It would be great to have a very light-weight nature modpack which adds some additional nature but doesn't get as expensive as full plantlife does. Maybe you can do something there?

Flowers and junglegrass currently include more nodes that in the default mod. But I think I can just make an ABM to remove them from the world and use only default nodes.
Also I made vines flammable (the only way to get rid of them :D) and continue to refactor the code to make it easier to update and fix. After that I'll think of what to add. Now I've got an idea to count steps on the dirt with grass and make the most walked nodes look like a road.

neko259 wrote:Flowers and junglegrass currently include more nodes that in the default mod. But I think I can just make an ABM to remove them from the world and use only default nodes.

Maybe these additional flowers could then be placed into one new mod so that they can be used in combination with minetest_game.

neko259 wrote:Also I made vines flammable (the only way to get rid of them :D) and continue to refactor the code to make it easier to update and fix.

Hmm. Regarding the vines mod, the ropebox is a very useful, very nice tool. The vines are more often in the way. Beeing able to craft the ropebox from i.e. string (gained from cotton plants from the farming mod which is also in default) might help. Vines could be optional then.

neko259 wrote: After that I'll think of what to add. Now I've got an idea to count steps on the dirt with grass and make the most walked nodes look like a road.

Please don't. There are already mods that add footsteps. It ended up with players digging up those ugly looking blocks and placing fresh dirt and/or trying to avoid running around where they actually wanted to.

Maybe these additional flowers could then be placed into one new mod so that they can be used in combination with minetest_game.

I have to rethink the purpose of my mod as I looked over the plantlife mod and it does the things were done in nature. Its bushes are prettier :)
Maybe I'll just concentrate on the growing and living stuff and will not introduce new nodes.

Hmm. Regarding the vines mod, the ropebox is a very useful, very nice tool. The vines are more often in the way. Beeing able to craft the ropebox from i.e. string (gained from cotton plants from the farming mod which is also in default) might help. Vines could be optional then.

They are already optional, you can always turn the mod off if you don't like it. But I agree the vines are useless for me too. Maybe they need to be removed.

A lightweight nature modpack would be very very welcome :-) One that concentrates on speed, while still looking nice and adding more nature to the default game.

Sokomine wrote:A lightweight nature modpack would be very very welcome :-) One that concentrates on speed, while still looking nice and adding more nature to the default game.

It's no problem to concentrate on speed. I just don't understand well what the mod should do. All that I wanted seems to be in the plantlife already, except tree growing and moss (don't know if it is not in plantlife yet).
Obviously moss, blossom and growing should stay in the mod. Bushes and vines can be removed. What else?

neko259 wrote:It's no problem to concentrate on speed. I just don't understand well what the mod should do. All that I wanted seems to be in the plantlife already, except tree growing and moss (don't know if it is not in plantlife yet).
Obviously moss, blossom and growing should stay in the mod. Bushes and vines can be removed. What else?

Oh, your nature modpack was really nice for a long time! And I appreciate it a lot that at least some of the mods got included in minetest_game. What I personally would like to see is adding *some* more nature (perhaps those additional plants? Certainly the moss) into a fast modpack. plantlife does a very good job as creating beautiful landscape, but it's also so slow. Plantlife offers many conditions plants may use for spawning. Which sums up and thus gets expensive. Your modpack could come with less plants (relative to plantlife!), who are also less demanding on their sourroundings and thus spawn faster. Kind of like something between the basic nature now beeing part of minetest_game and the crowded plantlife :-)
Of course it's your modpack and your choice where to go!

Well, you can just disable some mods from the plantlife and you will get a fast plantlife. But plantlife adds new plants, so I can concentrate on working with the existing ones. Just out of ideas now. Growing stone is too hardcore, footsteps already exist.

I'm looking to making fungus stone blocks in the dark caves that could give some nature light into the caves and corridors. For this I need 3 or 4 fungus texture I will overlay on the stone texture. The difference will be the fungus "level": the more it is grown the more light it will give. Could anyone please make the textures?

neko259 wrote:I'm looking to making fungus stone blocks in the dark caves that could give some nature light into the caves and corridors. For this I need 3 or 4 fungus texture I will overlay on the stone texture. The difference will be the fungus "level": the more it is grown the more light it will give. Could anyone please make the textures?

I can give a try!
What type of fungus you want? the classic view of fungus? moss looking?

Esteban wrote:I can give a try!
What type of fungus you want? the classic view of fungus? moss looking?

I want a moss looking fungus cause it will act similar to moss. It will appear in the dark caves instead of the stone blocks and will "grow" (less bright fungus blocks will become brighter), and it will turn back to stone if the cave becomes too light (e.g. you put torches in there).

neko259 wrote:

Esteban wrote:I can give a try!
What type of fungus you want? the classic view of fungus? moss looking?

I want a moss looking fungus cause it will act similar to moss. It will appear in the dark caves instead of the stone blocks and will "grow" (less bright fungus blocks will become brighter), and it will turn back to stone if the cave becomes too light (e.g. you put torches in there).

The following texture was the moss overlay for my texture pack, but I removed it. (The black background was added to make texture more visible, it is not part of the texture)



Would you like this texture? Or a different one?

Esteban wrote:Would you like this texture? Or a different one?

Could you make it in blue or violet colors? In my imagination the illuminating fungus is more bright, and blue is a "dark light" color. Does this sound reasonable?

neko259 wrote:

Esteban wrote:Would you like this texture? Or a different one?

Could you make it in blue or violet colors? In my imagination the illuminating fungus is more bright, and blue is a "dark light" color. Does this sound reasonable?

Sure! I just needed to make sure that you like the sprite, changing its color won't be a challenge! :D

Made it in three colors: light pink, violet and blue.

Great, I'll take a look on it in the game now.

Hmm, maybe we need less overlay and more half-tones? I mean like in the coal texture next to it. There are only several black coal lines, they do not cover the whole stone block like in your one.

neko259 wrote:

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Hmm, maybe we need less overlay and more half-tones? I mean like in the coal texture next to it. There are only several black coal lines, they do not cover the whole stone block like in your one.

Okay, got it! I'll fix this.

Made a more "natural" looking moss. It does not take the full block and has mid tones as well.

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