[Mod]IndustrialTest[itest]

[Nore]

That mod is an attempt to clone the IC2 mod for minecraft http://wiki.industrial-craft.net

It isn't developped anymore now, I am working on technic.



It is different from technic in that it tries to be much more close to the original mod than technic
About craft recipes, look in craft.lua until I make a wiki...

Depends on mesecons

Last but not least, the download: http://github.com/Ekdohibs/itest

I know the textures are crap, so if you want better textures, feel free to contribute.

License: Code: LGPL, Textures: WTFPL (they are crap after all)

The RE Battery uses the texture from technic, so that one is not WTFPL

[Traxie21]

Looking nice!

[Kacey]

Hey Nore, i made a Xycraft mod for minetest called xytest http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5602 maybe you can add this into a modpack containing both of them?

[ashenk69]

I'm guessing the brown node in the middle of all the cables is some sort of battery box. What is the difference between the 2 types of cables in the picture?

[CryAngel]

IC2 and UE fan here! :D well, actually i like UE some more than IC2 but just a bit. at most because UE are open source and some machines looks some better.

What is the difference between the 2 types of cables in the picture?

there must be much more than 2 types of cables. on picture will be tin (ultra-low voltage) and Insulated coper (low voltage) cables. in general difference between cables in voltage and energy loss.

[Nore]

For now, there are almost every type of cable, all storage blocks, all generators except geothermal and nuclear, and only 3 machines: macerator, extractor and electric furnace. I added an additionnal extractor recipe: it can extract mesecons from mese crystals 2 times more efficiently.

If you are a IC2 fan, could you tell me what you think of it, and what is not good?

[CryAngel]

first: cant run mod as is. i usually just clone git and so Itest bad name for mod. itest work good or you can make modpack - then Itest will be also allowed.

next: i think you will not depend on mesecons better do your mod just able use it. i.e. check if mesecons and other mods installed and if yes - use it. also i see you register your own dusts and Technic have some dusts. i think available solution here use your own dust only in case if Technic not installed.

hm... get this error in latest itest (from git):
14:14:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer places node itest:batbox at (327,2,783)
14:14:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: facedir: 0
14:14:32: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer leaves game. List of players:
14:14:32: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...\minetest-install\bin\..\mods\minetest\itest/storage.lua:30: attempt to index global 'charge' (a numbervalue)
14:14:32: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
Could not open file of texture:
as you see, is after placing batbox

[CryAngel]

i have many mods in word where i try, so i create new clear word with only itest and mesecons. and get other error:
14:26:13: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer places node itest:watermill at (-561,0,-68)
14:26:13: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer leaves game. List of players:
14:26:13: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...-install\bin\..\mods\minetest\itest/energy_transport.lua:103: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil)
14:26:13: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:

itest now broken? or i miss something?

add: sry, got it. pipeworks needed :D
and look like batbox now work. so, look like i get some conflict. btw, you need fix tree spawn lol. look at pic. trying go up to place windmill by placing dirt... then BOOM!


tree spawn right around me xD

[kaeza]

Excuse me if I'm a little noob or misread something, but isn't this exactly what RealBadAngel's technic does?
Edit: derp, I missed the part where you said that... sowwy :P

[Nore]

Try using the last version... the first bug is fixed (you normally don't need pipeworks)

As for the tree spawn bug, it isn't my code.

[CryAngel]

and you know about transformers? i mean this:
16:34:49: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...test-install\bin\..\mods\minetest\itest/transformers.lua:5: attempt to index global 'senddir' (a nil value)

[Nore]

Thanks, it is now fixed.

[CryAngel]

and how about some way to rotate blocks? hard to use transformers, batbox w/o it. especially if they always placed in one direction, not matter where you stay.

also may be i wrong but look like here problem with windmills. they need to be placed high to work, but then block with windmills will unload when you go to the ground.

[Nore]

When you place them, the output/high-voltage side will be on your right.
About windmill, that is true, and would be solvable if the force_load pull request was merged https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606

What you could do is to place your base in altitude... Don't forget that windmills placed too high have a chance to break.

[CryAngel]

Don't forget that windmills placed too high have a chance to break

yes, i know. dont know btw how convert IC2 safe altitude in IT altitude :D

[Nore]

Safe altitude is for now 252, because wind speed doesn't change, but it will be 127 in later (when wind speed will not be fixed)

[1244]

Could you add geothermal generator?

[Dan Duncombe]

Amazing! So cool! Just Like IC2

[Inocudom]

Will this make use of the technic and pipeworks mods in any way?

[Nore]

Pipeworks is already supported, however, energy is not compatible at all with technic (I will perhaps add some conversion when I will have time).

[ElectricSolstice]

In the file craft.lua, on line 264, it's missing the word cable in the craft, so instead of
output = "itest:glass_fiber_000000 4"
it should be
output = "itest:glass_fiber_cable_000000 4"
Hmm, looks like this mod is no longer developed though. Is anyone else using it anymore?

[Nore]

You are right for both things, since I am not working on this mod ATM, but rather on technic and tachnic_game, which are far better.

[SegFault22]

This has so much potential.
I have a few suggestions, to possibly add to that potential:

Suggestion1: Make an API, so that modders can add custom generators/cables/etc.

Suggestion2: Make cables of different materials more like real-life (gold is better at conducting, but has less maximum voltage).

Suggestion3: Add wire sizes - Smaller cables have more resistance, but cost less to make, whereas bigger cables have less resistance, while costing more to make.

Suggestion4: Add Mythril-Mese-compound cables, that are superconducting at Low-voltage, and gain resistance for every EU/p above 32 EU/p (as if they are ''heating up''

[ElectricSolstice]

Well, since you've stopped working on it because technic is better, would you mind if somebody forked the code? I personally like this mod as it has less dependencies and easier to play with stuff from the mod. The technic one uses moretrees, which I don't like the large trees and right now when I last checked that mod, it had to use a switching station, which makes building your first electric base a pain.
On a side note, I've never played Minecraft, but i'm guessing this mod would also help give a feel of nostalgia and an easier transition for those used to the industrialcraft mod.

[ElectricSolstice]

This has so much potential.
I have a few suggestions, to possibly add to that potential:

Suggestion1: Make an API, so that modders can add custom generators/cables/etc.

Suggestion2: Make cables of different materials more like real-life (gold is better at conducting, but has less maximum voltage).

Suggestion3: Add wire sizes - Smaller cables have more resistance, but cost less to make, whereas bigger cables have less resistance, while costing more to make.

Suggestion4: Add Mythril-Mese-compound cables, that are superconducting at Low-voltage, and gain resistance for every EU/p above 32 EU/p (as if they are ''heating up''

I like your first suggestion and agree it has potential. The other suggestions, I'm not sure about them because I think the original point of this mod was to be a clone of the minecraft mod Industrial Craft, so adding those in might violate the original spirit of this mod. If it's simple enough and fun enough though, those suggestions might be good, but i think it should be lower on the list of things to do for this mod.
What I think this mod needs is a nuclear reactor to generate a lot of electricity without having to use the coal generator. If done right, maybe it could have a nice progression of difficulty of development. The easiest being the coal generator and the hardest, due to all the materials needed, would be alternative energy, like solar. Solar panels themselves are definitely buildable but really give small amounts of energy, making them inefficient in terms of the material used to build the generators. At least that's my take on the mod so far since I've played with it. Haven't been able to play with the windmill yet as my base isn't high enough lol.

[Nore]

I have absolutely no problem with someone forking the code. Moreover, there is already an API, that you can use and that is designed to be powerful.

[minermoder27]

Single use batteries don't work

I think that you need to add "charge_tier = 1" to single use batteries.

[FASTPACEDMAN2000]

doesn't work for minetest 0.4.10

[minermoder27]

doesn't work for minetest 0.4.10

Could you be more specific? What is happening (eg, crashing). If so, could you pastebin a error log?

[FASTPACEDMAN2000]

sorry im being very late in replying when 0.4.10 was around, it just would not load, i had all dependecies, but is would just not work or load