webdesigner97 wrote:If you know who made it?!
no clue...
Linxx wrote:webdesigner97 wrote:If you know who made it?!
no clue...
webdesigner97 wrote:If you know who made it?!
webdesigner97 wrote:Let's do it like this, cause I don't want to go to IRC now:
How agrees in calling a new facebook page for minetest "official"? Who doesn't agree? I think that if we call it official, everybody would know that THIS page is the real one :)
Nisi wrote:webdesigner97 wrote:Let's do it like this, cause I don't want to go to IRC now:
How agrees in calling a new facebook page for minetest "official"? Who doesn't agree? I think that if we call it official, everybody would know that THIS page is the real one :)
I think there are enough Mintest pages. I'd just like the current official one being revived.
webdesigner97 wrote:Nisi wrote:webdesigner97 wrote:Let's do it like this, cause I don't want to go to IRC now:
How agrees in calling a new facebook page for minetest "official"? Who doesn't agree? I think that if we call it official, everybody would know that THIS page is the real one :)
I think there are enough Mintest pages. I'd just like the current official one being revived.
Sure, but we'll need to contact the owner... I'll try to do this...
webdesigner97 wrote:How agrees in calling a new facebook page for minetest "official"? Who doesn't agree? I think that if we call it official, everybody would know that THIS page is the real one :)
PilzAdam wrote:webdesigner97 wrote:How agrees in calling a new facebook page for minetest "official"? Who doesn't agree? I think that if we call it official, everybody would know that THIS page is the real one :)
I am against it, I dont like facebook and wont support it in any form.
addi wrote:PilzAdam wrote:I am against it, I dont like facebook and wont support it in any form.
me²
webdesigner97 wrote:But you shouldn't forget that Facebook can be a good platform to make ads for minetest. Imagine someone would like a post on the minetest page, then all of his friends may see this and visit the facebook page (and maybe the minetest homepage) too.
onpon4 wrote:I don't really agree that that's the case. The only real promotional advantage of social networking sites is word of mouth from friends, and I don't think that's made any better by a page for the topic existing on the social networking site. Whether a page exists or not, people on Facebook who like Minetest will have no trouble telling their friends about it.
Darkbee wrote:Couldn't we make similar arguments for not making Windows and Mac OS builds of Minetest, since those operating systems are owned by giant, evil corporations who steal away our freedoms and our soul with every cha-ching of their cash register?
onpon4 wrote:Darkbee wrote:Couldn't we make similar arguments for not making Windows and Mac OS builds of Minetest, since those operating systems are owned by giant, evil corporations who steal away our freedoms and our soul with every cha-ching of their cash register?
No, not at all. No Minetest builds for these systems means people using those systems won't be able to play without compiling themselves or installing a new OS, and so most of them would probably just give up. Not having a Facebook page just means that they need to go to minetest.net to get information about it.
The thing is, I don't think people tend to stumble on things they haven't heard of on Facebook or other social networking sites unless a contact mentioned them, and some sort of official Facebook page just isn't necessary for friends to mention Minetest.
onpon4 wrote:No, not at all. No Minetest builds for these systems means people using those systems won't be able to play without compiling themselves or installing a new OS, and so most of them would probably just give up. Not having a Facebook page just means that they need to go to minetest.net to get information about it.
The thing is, I don't think people tend to stumble on things they haven't heard of on Facebook or other social networking sites unless a contact mentioned them, and some sort of official Facebook page just isn't necessary for friends to mention Minetest.
Darkbee wrote:I think your real argument boils down to you don't want to use Facebook because you don't like it, and if you had your way nobody would use it. And that's okay. If I had my way, nobody would use Apple products but it is what it is. I'm happy to agree to disagree at this point.
Darkbee wrote:So your argument for not doing it is that it won't add anything to the Minetest community? So you concede that it won't hurt the Minetest community?
One of the fallacious aspects of FLOSS where advocates claim to support choices and freedom, but only so long as they agree with your choices :p It's quite Orwellian.
mauvebic wrote:If purists had their way they'd eliminate every non-FLOSS option out there. Calling that freedom is a classic example of doublespeak.
onpon4 wrote:That's called a strawman.
I'm far from the only one who thinks zealots are complete hypocrites. Google it if you don't believe me.
Random FLOSS Developer wrote:FLOSS Zealots
I’ll try not to get in to a discussion about the merits of Open Source versus proprietary software, but I have to say the FLOSS (or FOSS) zealots do get me going! These are the issues I have with them:
Their arguments are generally negative. They’re all about criticism (MS, or Mono or whoever).
Their arguments are hypocritical. “I want everything Free and Open” as long as it’s done the way I want, and you don’t use any software I don’t like.
They complain about companies spreading FUD, and then spout more crap and FUD than anyone else.
They apply double standards. Anything from someone they don’t like has to be meet their standards to a much greater degree than someone they do like.
They’re basically Fan Boys (or their opposite).
mauvebic wrote:Please, explain the strawman, because I see the same reasoning from many zealots. Creating "freedom" by limiting choices, leaving only those they happen to agree with.
onpon4 wrote:I shouldn't have to explain it; a strawman is simply when you argue with a position that isn't the other person's position. You repeated the exact same strawman here.
I and other free software advocates don't want to "[create] 'freedom' by limiting choices", so what you say here and what you said before is a strawman. The free software movement has always done the exact opposite: create freedom by adding choices. Develop free software, in particular.
mauvebic wrote:If that's all you did we wouldn't be having this discussion.
So fine, write your free software, if it's any good people will use it, there's no need to push it on everyone at every turn. It's only you "advocates" that care how "libre" some piece of software is, everyone else just wants to get on with their work/gaming.
Out of curiosity, are you active on any projects? (code, not marketing)
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