[Modpack] Animals Modpack [2.5] -- 2.6 approaching

[sapier]

neuromancer spawning mobs is quite a heavy task. best thing i could do by now was decoupling from mapgen. this is disabled by default as it may result in loss of mob spawns in some situations. what situations do i meen? e.g. if a server crashes prior a spawn job has been finished. in this case that area never will be spawned. in cas you shutdown a server regulary the shutdown is delayed until all jobs are done (usually some seconds)

2232 mobf isn't providing any recieps for postprocessing raw materials this is up to other mods.
btw you don't get dead meat from undead creatures

[Jktu]

I have a problem with mob_bear.
It don't has any bear's models and textures.
So I have an error message during the game like Can't open bear texture

[sapier]

bear isn't finished yet, have to complete the bear model I got it's missing some things.

Just released 2.2.2 fixin issues for those not using factions mod with animals modpack

[Silent-Hunter]

The animals don't move much. The chickens just kinda sit there, and don't really run away if you hit them.

[Iqualfragile]

The animals don't move much. The chickens just kinda sit there, and don't really run away if you hit them.

Your cpu might be overloaded, please check if your minetest version was compiled with luajit support which helps a lot in that case.

[Azuna]

The Mobs wont show. i had to spawn in a lot of cows and stuff, and i hav enot seen a big red or a vombie. ive been lookin' for a looooong time XD
also, how to breed animals? i dunno how.
and when i right-click, it says faction and debug info

[Sokomine]

The Mobs wont show. i had to spawn in a lot of cows and stuff, and i hav enot seen a big red or a vombie

By default, mobs are only spawned in new territory, so you have to explore regions of the map you havn't been to before.

also, how to breed animals? i dunno how.

For those animals that support it (e.g. cows, chicken, sheep, ..), place a barn filled with "food" (they eat leaves) close to the animals. When they wander around and find the food, they'll reproduce. It may take some time.

and when i right-click, it says faction and debug info

Yes, that's right, that prints debug information on the console. If you're not developing, just ignore it.

[roguelikesesp]

¿How much mobs we are talking? :3

[Azuna]

By default, mobs are only spawned in new territory, so you have to explore regions of the map you havn't been to before.

For those animals that support it (e.g. cows, chicken, sheep, ..), place a barn filled with "food" (they eat leaves) close to the animals. When they wander around and find the food, they'll reproduce. It may take some time.


Yes, that's right, that prints debug information on the console. If you're not developing, just ignore it.

Tank yoooou :3 btw this is Plum-chan :D

[sapier]

azuna if you want mobs to spawn in old areas to you can enable secondary spawning, but be warned this may cause performance issues


EDIT1:

I've just released Version 2.2.90 it's first prerelease for upcoming 2.3 release for minetest 0.4.8 so please test!

[Sokomine]

AspireMint has written some models (including animations) and textures for new animals. The integration into mobf isn't perfect yet - getting a swan to swim isn't easy, and some other aspects are not perfect yet either. If you like to test it, get the mobf_animals repro from github.

Rabbits come in brown, grey and white (good for snowy landscapes):


A donkey you can actually ride on:


Butterflies:


A swan:


A turtle (hides inside its shell if you attack it!):


Although the mobf versions are not perfect yet, they are already more convincing in "behaviour" and movement than the simple mobs versions.

Thanks to AspireMint for the fine models and to sapier for mobf!

[MirceaKitsune]

AspireMint has written some models (including animations) and textures for new animals. The integration into mobf isn't perfect yet - getting a swan to swim isn't easy, and some other aspects are not perfect yet either. If you like to test it, get the mobf_animals repro from github.

Rabbits come in brown, grey and white (good for snowy landscapes):
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/466/animal_rabbit_brown.pnghttp://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/464/animal_rabbit_snow.pnghttp://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/465/animal_rabbit_grey.png

A donkey you can actually ride on:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/468/animal_donkey.png

Butterflies:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/469/animal_butterfly.png

A swan:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/470/animal_swan.png

A turtle (hides inside its shell if you attack it!):
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/467/animal_turtle.png

Although the mobf versions are not perfect yet, they are already more convincing in "behaviour" and movement than the simple mobs versions.

Thanks to AspireMint for the fine models and to sapier for mobf!

A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Swan seems to have a bent neck however... I suggest correcting that especially if this is intended for default (otherwise it breaks the style).

[Tedypig]

I cant find craft recipies anywhere for most of the tool (like shears) anyone have a link to a readme with the recipies? Any help will do. Thanks in advance!


EDIT:Typos (lots if them)....damn small touchscreen buttons.. lmao..


PS:How can I make the chat shut up with the constant updates?

[Inocudom]

AspireMint has written some models (including animations) and textures for new animals. The integration into mobf isn't perfect yet - getting a swan to swim isn't easy, and some other aspects are not perfect yet either. If you like to test it, get the mobf_animals repro from github.

Rabbits come in brown, grey and white (good for snowy landscapes):
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/466/animal_rabbit_brown.pnghttp://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/464/animal_rabbit_snow.pnghttp://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/465/animal_rabbit_grey.png

A donkey you can actually ride on:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/468/animal_donkey.png

Butterflies:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/469/animal_butterfly.png

A swan:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/470/animal_swan.png

A turtle (hides inside its shell if you attack it!):
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/467/animal_turtle.png

Although the mobf versions are not perfect yet, they are already more convincing in "behaviour" and movement than the simple mobs versions.

Thanks to AspireMint for the fine models and to sapier for mobf!

A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Swan seems to have a bent neck however... I suggest correcting that especially if this is intended for default (otherwise it breaks the style).

This is beautiful. Absolutely, truly beautful. I support the new critters all the way.

Could some of the bunnies, butterflies, and turtles live in the caves underground like slimes do?

I think bumble bees would make for a good mob idea.

[Topywo]

I cant find craft recipies anywhere for most of the tool (like shears) anyone have a link to a readme with the recipies? Any help will do. Thanks in advance!

Look for the recipes in the init.lua in the folder/directory called 'animalmaterials'.

[Inocudom]

How long does it take for the new animals to appear? I haven't found any yet.

[Sokomine]

Swan seems to have a bent neck however... I suggest correcting that especially if this is intended for default (otherwise it breaks the style).

I don't quite get what you mean, and AspireMint seemed equally puzzled. Can you please describe what you're talking about in a diffrent way? Or show a drawing as a sample?

Could some of the bunnies, butterflies, and turtles live in the caves underground like slimes do?

I don't think they ought to spawn there by default. Neither of those creatures lives in caves. Bunnies dig their own tunnels, but those are too small for players. If you want animals to spawn in caves, you can change it in your local version by adding further spawn algorithms. Or - which is perhaps easier - catch some animals on the surface with a lasso or net and place them in your underground garden :-)

I think bumble bees would make for a good mob idea.

You have to convince someone with blender skills to do a bumble bee. At least it ought to be a pretty simple model. Getting it to fly in a convincing way may be more challenging.

How long does it take for the new animals to appear? I haven't found any yet.

Without secondary spawning enabled, they appear only in newly generated regions. They're not especially rare there (about equal to the other animals).

[MirceaKitsune]

Swan seems to have a bent neck however... I suggest correcting that especially if this is intended for default (otherwise it breaks the style).

I don't quite get what you mean, and AspireMint seemed equally puzzled. Can you please describe what you're talking about in a diffrent way? Or show a drawing as a sample?

Sorry about that. I meant that in the screenshot, I got the impression the swan has a bent neck. For the default style, I believe all models should be made of straight blocks only. Same thing Minecraft does... no mob contains any bent / round / cone body parts, everything's made of perfect blocks.

[Tedypig]

Look for the recipes in the init.lua in the folder/directory called 'animalmaterials'.

I did that, there's only 3 recipes in there. I found 'barn' in it's folder, but I can't seem to find 'scissors', 'lasso' (I figured that one out myself), I'm not on my normal computer so I can't list all that I'm missing. I wish there was a screenshot style recipe section somewhere. I do have scissors now, but I had to make up a recipe for it. Sapier can you add a page or make a quick wiki on recipes? It sure would be helpful to newer users of your mod (and for people that don't understand Lua good enough to find it in the code). Thanks.

[sapier]

@tedypig I recommend reading lead post of this thread ;-)
https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/wiki/User-documentation
I've already tried different ways to make people read documentation but haven't found a way that really works :-)


Release plan:
Friday Version 2.2.91
Sunday Version 2.3

plz do final tests to ensure mobf really does what it's intended to do.

[Tedypig]

Thank you sapier. One more and I will leave you alone. Lol. The saddle resipe is missing from that. Also, about shutting up the chat?

[RealBadAngel]

Look for the recipes in the init.lua in the folder/directory called 'animalmaterials'.

I did that, there's only 3 recipes in there. I found 'barn' in it's folder, but I can't seem to find 'scissors', 'lasso' (I figured that one out myself), I'm not on my normal computer so I can't list all that I'm missing. I wish there was a screenshot style recipe section somewhere. I do have scissors now, but I had to make up a recipe for it. Sapier can you add a page or make a quick wiki on recipes? It sure would be helpful to newer users of your mod (and for people that don't understand Lua good enough to find it in the code). Thanks.

Unified Inventory is good at showing you all the craft recipes for an item ;)

[sapier]

There is no saddle reciep you can only buy it from trader

[Azuna]

I found this hut with a guard in it attacking these zombiethings just SWARMING THE PLACE. they killed all the other things. who needs sleep, anyways? ;~;

[Inocudom]

AspireMint has written some models (including animations) and textures for new animals. The integration into mobf isn't perfect yet - getting a swan to swim isn't easy, and some other aspects are not perfect yet either. If you like to test it, get the mobf_animals repro from github.

Rabbits come in brown, grey and white (good for snowy landscapes):
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/466/animal_rabbit_brown.pnghttp://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/464/animal_rabbit_snow.pnghttp://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/465/animal_rabbit_grey.png

A donkey you can actually ride on:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/468/animal_donkey.png

Butterflies:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/469/animal_butterfly.png

A swan:
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/470/animal_swan.png

A turtle (hides inside its shell if you attack it!):
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/467/animal_turtle.png

Although the mobf versions are not perfect yet, they are already more convincing in "behaviour" and movement than the simple mobs versions.

Thanks to AspireMint for the fine models and to sapier for mobf!

A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Swan seems to have a bent neck however... I suggest correcting that especially if this is intended for default (otherwise it breaks the style).

Doesn't anybody care about these animals that AspireMint made? Anybody at all?

AspireMint, if you are reading this, I strongly urge you to add your custom animals to simple_mobs. Otherwise, they will not have any value in the eyes of the masses in this community.

[Sokomine]

The problem is: simple mobs is not meant to handle nicely animated peaceful mobs. I tried AspireMints models with simple mobs first (in the hope to get them on some servers), but wasn't satisfied with the result. Simple mobs are simple...and sometimes that behaviour is just too simple :-( A turtle..hopping...every other moment...that's just...they don't do that. If you want good and halfway convincing animals, mobf is far superior.

Sapier claims that it consumes far less CPU cycles by now - most seem to have been used for spawning the animals. Having lots of mobf animals roam around the map is usually no problem. As long as you get rid of the vombies. Perhaps simple mobs ought to be used for fighting, while mobf can handle mobs you don't want to kill on sight but watch for longer than 2 seconds (the dirt- and sandmonsters in simple mobs are ok as well; the sheep are not).

[Inocudom]

The problem is: simple mobs is not meant to handle nicely animated peaceful mobs. I tried AspireMints models with simple mobs first (in the hope to get them on some servers), but wasn't satisfied with the result. Simple mobs are simple...and sometimes that behaviour is just too simple :-( A turtle..hopping...every other moment...that's just...they don't do that. If you want good and halfway convincing animals, mobf is far superior.

Sapier claims that it consumes far less CPU cycles by now - most seem to have been used for spawning the animals. Having lots of mobf animals roam around the map is usually no problem. As long as you get rid of the vombies. Perhaps simple mobs ought to be used for fighting, while mobf can handle mobs you don't want to kill on sight but watch for longer than 2 seconds (the dirt- and sandmonsters in simple mobs are ok as well; the sheep are not).

I like mobf better than simple_mobs myself, but the masses don't share my enthusiasm. Just look at the following lines in yesterday's #minetest chat log:
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-11-29#i_3461880
I find the chat discussion to be disheartening.

[sapier]

Instead of complaining about "beeing bad" you should start reporting the issues inocudom ... what you do atm is just bashing without any proof for your claims.
There are bugs in mobf for sure but most of them are minor or not even mob bugs .. if people add 100 mods and thousand mobs to a slow single core server this won't work for sure. I keep on improving to make mobf handl those slow machines but I doubt I will ever be able to run mobf on a 1990 486DX33

[Inocudom]

Instead of complaining about "beeing bad" you should start reporting the issues inocudom ... what you do atm is just bashing without any proof for your claims.
There are bugs in mobf for sure but most of them are minor or not even mob bugs .. if people add 100 mods and thousand mobs to a slow single core server this won't work for sure. I keep on improving to make mobf handl those slow machines but I doubt I will ever be able to run mobf on a 1990 486DX33

You should go on #minetest and tell john_minetest (and the rest of the people there) that.

Will AspireMint's new animals be added to mobf? They are very pretty and deserve to be part of mobf (or an expansion pack of it.)

There should be an option that prevents mobs from destroying nodes that can be toggled on and off in a configuration setting.

[valmet565]

Great job Sapier and AspireMint. I am your fans. I upgraded today to version 2.2.91, and I also tried new animals: donkey, swan, etc. The donkey moves really well, just awesome. I like this more than the Simple mobs.

I lifted spawning density. I feel more comfortable when they are a little less and fps is very good.