[Mod] Ethereal [1.16] [ethereal]

[Sokomine]

I cannot seem to find papyrus spawning anywhere on the map

That's a side effect of the new type of green grass and dirt taking on the color of the sourrounding area. Papyrus needs to be re-added. That can be done like with all the other plants.

dirt monsters on gray topped dirt and sheep on green topped dirt :)

If it weren't for the tree monsters, the green area might be a friendly one to stay in :-)

I hope the growing function for trees and mushrroms will sone be added. Hmmm was so kind to introduce a function to Minetest that allows to place those trees/mushrooms without replacing existing nodes. All it takes now for ethereal to regrow such plants is some saplings and a bit of simple code.

[TenPlus1]

Chinchow: how about a prarie biome that has grass_with_dirt as main soil top and different coloured floweres growing all over so that users can make use of the dye, and at the waters edge the papyrus growing tall so we have paper :) one biome to fix all the problems with missing items :)

[Neon]

That biome is likely to have it's dirt overwritten by neighboring biomes, due to the recent fix to dirt planted within an existing biome

[Sokomine]

Chinchow: how about a prarie biome that has grass_with_dirt as main soil top and different coloured floweres growing all over so that users can make use of the dye, and at the waters edge the papyrus growing tall so we have paper :) one biome to fix all the problems with missing items :)

That won't work that way. The normal dirt with grass is now a node that exists only for a moment - until it decides what color to turn into. It is no longer intended for normal map-use. Instead, flowers and other plants (especially papyrus) ought to be spawned the same way other plants are spawned. Ethereal already does it with other plants. Only thing that really won't work that way is the spread of the flowers. But even that could be changed if flowers are made aware of the fact that group:ethereal_grass is a nice place to grow on...

[TenPlus1]

Ah, I assumed the dirt_with_grass was only replaced near and around other coloured dirt, but that's fine... Adding the prairie biome with all flowers and papyrus will be just as good so players can get access to those items...

[TenPlus1]

Another quick bug fix, you now hear grass sounds when walking around the biomes, and wood sounds when walking on frost wood... init.lua file attached...

Also, a prairie biome has been added that contains all flowers... mapgen_v7.lua file attached...

[Sokomine]

Also, a prairie biome has been added that contains all flowers... mapgen_v7.lua file attached...

The flowers mod might still need to be updated/adapted as well - else the flowers will not spread. Given how dense the vegetation is with this mapgen, it's probably less important.

It would be nice if saplings could be added so that the trees and mushrooms will really grow. Currently there are only saplings for the frost trees. The other ones ought to be re-growable as well. Or shall I add the basic code for that as an attachment so that only the textures need to be added?

[Neon]

IMH[Experience], there are no frost-tree saplings dropped from frost-tree leaves. how else are you supposed to get those saplings? (Once again, IMHE) this mod doesn't have any special sapling drops at all.

[Sokomine]

The mod used to have frost tree saplings dropped from frost tree leaves. They caused a bug when trying (and failing) to grow. This can now be solved.

[Sokomine]

A few updates (sending them here was easier than via PN as that allows no attachments):

Trees and mushrooms can now be re-grown from saplings. The nodes for the saplings are created in case they're not defined yet. There are no textures for most of the saplings so far; Chinchow has promised to add them :-) Almost all trees grow only on dirt of their native biome - except for the gray trees. Those are used to so few ressources that they can be grown on any soil.

Perhaps you do know the allfaces_tree or all-sides-grassblocks from other mods. These exist now for the diffrent dirt with grass types of the ethereal biomes, are called "moss" and can be crafted by combining dirt with frost leaves, red mushroom top, dry shrub (fiery), snowygrass (gray) or jungleleaves (green). The moss does not change color and can be used as a block for building.

In order to get something to craft the moss blocks with, and because some biomes are a bit plant-less, I've added dry shrub for the fiery biome (normal dry shrub turned reddish) and snowygrass (normal junglegrass turned white and made smaller). Both types of plant are fire-resistant in order to avoid costy bushfires.

I hope this will be approved and included in the main version. Until then, you can include it by adding

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dofile(minetest.get_modpath("ethereal").."/saplings.lua")
dofile(minetest.get_modpath("ethereal").."/all_faces_grass.lua")


to the init.lua in the ethereal folder.

[Chinchow]

Update!
Sound the trumpets an update!
Merging all the contributions from Sokomine TenPlus1, and a new cave biome this update is jampacked with new features!
Features:
Decorative Grass Blocks
Two new grasses
Growing Saplings
A Prairie Biome
A Cave Biome
And More!

[Inocudom]

Update!
Sound the trumpets an update!
Merging all the contributions from Sokomine TenPlus1, and a new cave biome this update is jampacked with new features!
Features:
Decorative Grass Blocks
Two new grasses
Growing Saplings
A Prairie Biome
A Cave Biome
And More!

Are these updates on your server as of now?

[Chinchow]

TenPlus1 the only things I can complain about there are Crystal Ingots, which should be some form of crystal, and Glostone. To be honest I never liked glowstone so. Other than that I like it.

[Neon]

Cross-Posting from the Updating Colors.txt thread:

I couldn't find a wiki article on this. Here are the colors for the Ethereal mod

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ethereal:frost_leaves 170 75 170
ethereal:frost_tree 86 58 31
ethereal:mushroom_trunk 170 170 170
ethereal:mushroom 170 50 25
ethereal:crystal_topped_dirt 25 75 170
ethereal:mushroom_dirt 170 75 170
ethereal:fiery_dirt_top 170 50 25
ethereal:gray_dirt_top 170 170 170
ethereal:green_dirt_top 107 134 51

[Iqualfragile]

Can you put this mod into some kind of modern vcs (hg or git) you can find free hosts all over the internet (bitbucket and github would be two examples) or just host them yourself. That would help you with development and others with understanding what happens and contributing. (Additionally this would enable you to use the mmdb)

[Inocudom]

Can you put this mod into some kind of modern vcs (hg or git) you can find free hosts all over the internet (bitbucket and github would be two examples) or just host them yourself. That would help you with development and others with understanding what happens and contributing. (Additionally this would enable you to use the mmdb)

It is generally a good idea for mod authors to do this sort of thing.

[4aiman]

Can this mod use more trees like those from moretrees?
(I don't want moretrees with their huge models, just the types of trees added there.)

[Sokomine]

Can this mod use more trees like those from moretrees?

Both mods use completely diffrent ways of adding trees. Moretrees uses L-system, while ethereal operates with schematics. Adding a new tree for ethereal can basicly be done by saving a suitable tree with WorldEdit - plus a bit of code for spawning it, perhaps a new wood/leaves node, sapling code...

[paramat]

I really like the thick jungles, and the plantlike drawtype for leaves.

[4aiman]

Both mods use completely diffrent ways of adding trees. Moretrees uses L-system, while ethereal operates with schematics. Adding a new tree for ethereal can basicly be done by saving a suitable tree with WorldEdit - plus a bit of code for spawning it, perhaps a new wood/leaves node, sapling code...

I didn't want to have moretrees trees as they are. All I wanted is to have spruces, apple tees, oaks etc. I don't care how'd they look ()although moretrees' trees are way to big if you'd ask me :)

I've tried to add schematics, but have found that those are binary files, not "text" ones.
Does exporting with world edit will create needed format? Otherwise, how can I create a new schematic file?

Also, is it possible to rotate decorations (from a schematics file)?
If not, then should I use 4 different files to rotate one "model"?

[TenPlus1]

Paramat: I would however disable fire when using Ethereal mod since it can create quite a few forest fires being too close to lava craters...

disable_fire = true

[4aiman]

Paramat: I would however disable fire when using Ethereal mod since it can create quite a few forest fires being too close to lava craters...

disable_fire = true

Never got a forest fire, but the "mushrest" fire :)
But I think that deserted fiery biomes should be surrounded with biomes that do not have much to be set on fire. Or they may have rivers of red water that hurts player, but doesn't burn and extinguish any fire nearby. (Although this would require a lot of work and probably reimplementation of fire)

[Sokomine]

I didn't want to have moretrees trees as they are. All I wanted is to have spruces, apple tees, oaks etc. I don't care how'd they look ()although moretrees' trees are way to big if you'd ask me :)

I love moretree trees as decoration and landscape. Unfortionately, they're extremly impractical when it comes to obtaining their wood. That was one of the reasons why I created my random_buildings mod with its lumberjacks.

I've tried to add schematics, but have found that those are binary files, not "text" ones.
Does exporting with world edit will create needed format? Otherwise, how can I create a new schematic file?

Yes, WorldEdit is the right way to create schematic files. Use "//mtschemcreate filename" instead of "//save filename" and read the documentation of WorldEdit if you want to learn more about probabilities. You may also use the apartment control panels from my apartment mod to create said schematics - just prefix the name of an apartment with "save_as_filename".

Also, is it possible to rotate decorations (from a schematics file)? If not, then should I use 4 different files to rotate one "model"?

They can even be rotated randomly automaticly - or rotated by a given value. The place_schematic function also allows to provide replacements - so that i.e. all normal tree thrunks in your schematic are placed as apple tree trunks etc. Plus there's a nice new parameter that allows to place schematics without replacing existing content - very very useful for growing saplings into trees.

[4aiman]

Thanks, Sokomine!
I haven't used worldedit 'cause I had only 3 players at my server so, there were no need in a beautiful spawn or anything else WE could provide.

It's great that WE is documented. Gonna be reading ;)
Thanks once again!

PS: TenPlus1, you should've also remove the Dark Sam (a counterpart of Herobrine) :)

[TenPlus1]

Thanks, Sokomine!
I haven't used worldedit 'cause I had only 3 players at my server so, there were no need in a beautiful spawn or anything else WE could provide.

It's great that WE is documented. Gonna be reading ;)
Thanks once again!

PS: TenPlus1, you should've also remove the Dark Sam (a counterpart of Herobrine) :)

Dark Sam ??? How do you mean, I haven't removed anything like that ???

[4aiman]

PS: TenPlus1, you should've also remove the Dark Sam (a counterpart of Herobrine) :)

I was kidding.
You may not know, but Minecraft devs have removed Herobrine once in a while :)
Herobrine is a mysterious player who can be seen on an edge of fog. He watches you. And if you try to follow him - disappears. Some claimed that Herobrine turned hostile and killed them ingame.

But the fact is Minecraft NEVER had such a feature.


On the other hand, you've told twice that you've removed "glostone".
I assumed that the first time you really did and the second was just a mistake caused by copy/paste or smth else.

But I felt funny about that notice, 'cause I had remembered about Herobrine.

So I've "invented" Dark Sam and asked why didn't you remove it :)
Lame or not, Minecraft has some descent stories made up around it.

[Chinchow]

Aww I liked rail and railtwo. They added personality to sandstone deserts.

[4aiman]

Great! :)
I've a question:
Where can I lay my sticky hands on the flowers mod?
I've downloaded plantlife, but it doesn't define any flowers, just redefines potted ones.

[TenPlus1]

Great! :)
I've a question:
Where can I lay my sticky hands on the flowers mod?
I've downloaded plantlife, but it doesn't define any flowers, just redefines potted ones.

On linux you'll find the flowers mod inside /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/

All built-in mods are typically found in this location from flowers, doors, buckets and default actions and items...

[4aiman]

Oh... I had deleted minetest_game like half a year ago so it's natural I don't remember if there were any flowers...
Thanks!

*PS: I'm not using BUILD_IN_PLACE option*