No mobs

[kule8897]

When will mobs be back in game?I feel like the game is empty without mobs.Also why did the old mobs get taken out.I can settle for mods for mobs but i would like them in the base game.

[Minetestforfun]

unfortunately, the mobs aren't yet in the default game...

[Calinou]

A default mobs mod should remain fairly simple (only a few mobs, hostile and friendly) to not be too slow and annoy people who don't want it. As long as there's “something to be scared of and something to make food of”, it's probably enough provided there are minetest.conf settings to disable mob spawning individually.

[Dragonop]

I really will love to see Dungeon Master, Oerkky, The Rat(s), the Lightbugs, and maybe a 2D sheep. Why the mobs where removed? They where not buggy, and fast, in the older versions :)

[kule8897]

Exactly.

:)

[Esteban]

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[twoelk]

look here for some info on mods that provide mobs:
http://wiki.minetest.net/Mobs

[stormchaser3000]

the last thing we need is hostile mobs but peaceful mobs like sheep or pigs i wouldn't mind

[greydmiyu]

I really will love to see Dungeon Master, Oerkky, The Rat(s), the Lightbugs, and maybe a 2D sheep. Why the mobs where removed? They where not buggy, and fast, in the older versions :)

Aren't those provided by SimpleMobs?

[Dragonop]

Those are in the oldest versions, exept the sheep.

[Calinou]

The old mobs were coded in C++, the code was removed in early 2012 (last build to have it was 0.4_201201022). The problem was that you couldn't tweak the spawning conditions (except preventing hostile mob spawns) or the mobs themselves.

[Dragonop]

@Calinou ¿Why is a problem that you can't tweak the spawning? For me, those mobs are way too much better than the new lua mobs. Why where removed? Who tought that it was a good idea? Isn't possible to take back the code?

[Calinou]

@Calinou ¿Why is a problem that you can't tweak the spawning? For me, those mobs are way too much better than the new lua mobs. Why where removed? Who tought that it was a good idea? Isn't possible to take back the code?

It is clearly a problem for modders. Lua mobs can be made well and they can be fast. To me (and I guess many other modders/developers), they are a better solution than C++ mobs.

It would be very hard (and pointless) to take back the old code. Game stuff has nothing to do in engine code.

[Dragonop]

@Calinou Well, the Lua mobs, work very laggy to me, and don't notice me until some time next to them; and the C++ mobs (before removed) where working a lot better.

[twoelk]

@Dragonop, which mob mods have you used? Singleplayer or on a server?

[Linuxdirk]

There should only be a well-documented mob API and the mob AI (friendly/hostile/ambiguous) and spawing logic in the game. Mobs of all kind should be implemented via mods only.

[Calinou]

@Calinou Well, the Lua mobs, work very laggy to me, and don't notice me until some time next to them; and the C++ mobs (before removed) where working a lot better.

Have you tried this one? The non-noticing bug was fixed and they are overall quite fast.

C++ mobs were occasionally desynchronized from the server…