Xanadu Server

[IceAgeComing]

The rules of spawn 2 is right where you spawn into once you come from portal from red path. As theres TONS of signs right where you spawn into, its not possible to not see them, only to decide to ignore and not read the signs. That's also the reason why the portal is fairly hidden spot, so not every new player wouldnt find it.... We put lots of effort into making that place, so we really expect people to follow spawn 2 specific rules (no floating protections, no building in water, fitting theme, no modern buildings, etc.)

Sorry you had to lose your house in this, but that teaches to learn to read signs....
+ theres plenty of places on server wheres no rules where/how to build. So i hope you find a place for yourself. As suggested, orange portal is good place for it.

[doyousketch2]

There's 32,000 blocks in every direction.

You don't need the 30 x 30 area that me and my son occupied.

If you wanted the space, you could have have given me a chance to resolve it by talking to me.

What's there now is by no means any better. The things half-built and pieced together from random bits.

The house 2-over is partly destroyed as well, and has been sitting like that since before I got on. So if you want to take something out, why aren't you applying your rules to those buildings?

You're just bullying me by tearing my stuff apart, then hiding behind a sign saying "it was posted" like some flippin' Vogon.

[TenPlus1]

The rules were clearly posted both at the stargate and spawn2 area, whoever led you to this area should also have warned you about what you were allowed to build...

Xanadu is a very large place and has it's own rules to contend with as well as local rules for areas under development of certain players, but being so large means there is always room away from other players to build whatever you like without constraints (e.g. Noob area teleport pad at spawn)...

[doyousketch2]

You failed to clearly define what Spawn2 was.

We would all agree that may include the immediate vicinity surrounding the point at which you spawn, but not a couple hundred blocks down the road.

If you didn't want people building there you should have an admin own it.

[King_Grim]

Guy please stop making such a fuss over you're inability to follow rules. Why not jump back into the game and build again this time following rules or venturing somewhere that has no rules, which I found in an hour into game play, and I'm a fairly new user myself.

[firefox]

You failed to clearly define what Spawn2 was.

We would all agree that may include the immediate vicinity surrounding the point at which you spawn, but not a couple hundred blocks down the road.

If you didn't want people building there you should have an admin own it.

the first signs are directy attached to the Stargate that leads there.
then there are lots of signs at each road at the spawn area.
everything is clearly defined.
spawn2 is so far away that it is impossible to walk there, so you can only reach it with the Stargate where you will see all the signs.

the Stargate is off-road so that only careful players who read signs and explore can find it.
if someone invited you there without explaining the rules, it was either a noob who somehow got there by luck or it was malicious intent.

this strongly reminds me on other cases where players build inside the spawn waters or above other players buildings and cast huge shadows. all the server rules are displayed at spawn in 5 languages.
the spawn house is so build that you cannot leave it without reading the signs.
so only people who totally ignore everything can miss the rules.
the same applies to spawn2.

for your new house:
there are some free places at the Shroom Road (red path), 2 of them are owned by me and i give them to good builders.
the blue path has a lot of water and a newly build ice road. you can build your own little island there.
Midville has some free places (use the pink teleporter at spawn).
in Capital City (dark green teleporter) you can get pre-constructed houses or an apartment in the Capital Megaplex. ask Big3Force, he is the Lord Mayor.
the Burning Lands (my home) has lots of space, a public garden and a public mine. you can get there by using the Subway at the Iron Stargate (green path).
if you like deserts, you can ask Phiwari123 for a place in the Desert Town Amahara (red path). (Amahara has building rules!)
the orange teleporter at spawn leads to the Beginner's Area. it is the newest area and very clean and organized. iska is the president here. there are also tree farms and a mine. it has a tropical/jungle theme, but so far there are no rules that prevent you from building other things.

[Pawl]

Can I set something like billboard near the mushroom road to show where is my hotel?

[Sokomine]

If a building does not fit to a particular place, whoever acts as admin/moderator may save it using WorldEdit and only remove the building afterwards. The .mts format (created with "//mtschemcreate filename") does take extremly little disk space.

[Niebieski]

Yesterday I was teleported to /spawn by Ice or Bonny because I was getting near a so called 'private area'.
Many people are complaining about this atitude.

[firefox]

i know that ice and bonny are building a new city, but they won't allow anyone to see it until it's finished.
i also dislike the fact that they talk so much about it in the public chat.
if it is a secret, they should use PMs to talk about it.

unfortunately you can't bribe bonny with cupcakes.

[IceAgeComing]

Yesterday I was teleported to /spawn by Ice or Bonny because I was getting near a so called 'private area'.
Many people are complaining about this atitude.

We told you day before that we don't allow any visitors to our private city, but you ignored what we said and still walked to us... We made our area thousands and thousands of blocks away from spawn, so we could just build in peace, is that really a sin to wish to build a city alone without disturbance or fear that someone gonna break anything or build a house right at spot where i was planning next city house(no its not possible to protect everything rightaway, the city area is huge). You could have just asked if you can come and see, before walking 10k blocks.
After we tp'd you to spawn, you couldnt stay calm and started talking in caps... what a shame...

So is it really hard to just stay away from place thats thousands of blocks away and to stop following our name tag?
PS. we cant talk about what we build in private anyways, cause its 3 of us building it, as you know PM's dont work with 3 people talking at same time :)

[Niebieski]

Firstly, you didn't tell me anything about it.
Secondly, you still have a chance that someone just teleports there or near.
Thirdly, if you can't protect your area then it's not our problem. I think you own the most land in the server so no!
Fourthly, I didn't talk in caps.
It's enough for me that you lie.

[IceAgeComing]

Firstly, you didn't tell me anything about it.
Secondly, you still have a chance that someone just teleports there or near.
Thirdly, if you can't protect your area then it's not our problem. I think you own the most land in the server so no!
Fourthly, I didn't talk in caps.
It's enough for me that you lie.

1. I told about not wanting anyone to come to our area, the same time you were talking in chat also. So you must have seen it or ignored it.
2. If someone teleports near and happens to find the city, i also tp person back to spawn Getting tp'd to spawn is not the end of world, life goes on.
3. So you accusing me on owning too much land. You see, i have been on server for over a year, imagine how much buildings i have made in that time period. Including public places, like mushroom road, yellow path road, spawn 2, public mine and list goes on and on. Do you have problem about me building a lot too? The map is huge, theres plenty of room for everybody to build, without having to touch mine, bonny and Phiwari's city.
4. You either have bad memory or you lie. Yes you did use caps for sentences like "ARE YOU KIDDING ME".

And finally, you just got tp'd to spawn. Noone killed you, kicked you or took your privs. You were just tp'd. So you are overreacting a lot. It rather seems like you have personal issue against me owning lots of land for buildings.

[Niebieski]

Firstly, you didn't tell me anything about it.
Secondly, you still have a chance that someone just teleports there or near.
Thirdly, if you can't protect your area then it's not our problem. I think you own the most land in the server so no!
Fourthly, I didn't talk in caps.
It's enough for me that you lie.

1. I told about not wanting anyone to come to our area, the same time you were talking in chat also. So you must have seen it or ignored it.
2. If someone teleports near and happens to find the city, i also tp person back to spawn Getting tp'd to spawn is not the end of world, life goes on.
3. So you accusing me on owning too much land. You see, i have been on server for over a year, imagine how much buildings i have made in that time period. Including public places, like mushroom road, yellow path road, spawn 2, public mine and list goes on and on. Do you have problem about me building a lot too? The map is huge, theres plenty of room for everybody to build, without having to touch mine, bonny and Phiwari's city.
4. You either have bad memory or you lie. Yes you did use caps for sentences like "ARE YOU KIDDING ME".

And finally, you just got tp'd to spawn. Noone killed you, kicked you or took your privs. You were just tp'd. So you are overreacting a lot. It rather seems like you have personal issue against me owning lots of land for buildings.

Again.
You didn't tell me.
I didn't talk in caps.
Lets just get the chat logs and finish this up.
You do own some flat lands, and it's okay, you could have protected your city and that's it.
You don't have the right to just teleport me to /spawn for nonsense, specially when you know that I've travelled 10k blocks. You're abusing your privileges.

[iska]

Hey!

I dont usually answer to posts like these, just throwing in my 0.02 eur...

I dont think there are any rule that say if someone is allowed building something in their privacy, but common sense tells me that biggest contributors and productive builders in the server deserve that right.

After all its 60000x60000x60000 block world in our use. (216000000000000 blocks).

I think this topic shouldn't continue.

Cheers, iska - the noob president

[firefox]

(Edit: iska was faster than me, but it took a lot of time to write this, so i will still post it.)

i doubt that you randomly travelled 10k blocks and ended up there by chance.
i remember that ice wrote multiple warnings, it should have been visible.

ice cannot use worldedit to cover everything with a huge wall.
the problem is not the protection, but the privacy.
people use locked doors so that others can't enter their houses.
this city is like ice's house, so it's not open for public.

it happens often that people break into other peoples houses by abusing the glitch bug or teleporting into locked rooms.
if that happens, they are teleported to spawn.
you have been warned not to enter the house, you still did enter, you were teleported.

it also has happened a lot that people build on the spawn waters or other restricted areas.
the building rules are clearly displayed, the buildings get removed.
people complain about being griefed. more than half of this forum thread is about cases like that.

read signs, read the chat. use F10 if you missed something.
everything is there and there is always enough time to talk about everything, but usually people ignore signs and messages, so actions must be taken.

[lag01]

Again.
You didn't tell me.
I didn't talk in caps.
Lets just get the chat logs and finish this up.
You do own some flat lands, and it's okay, you could have protected your city and that's it.
You don't have the right to just teleport me to /spawn for nonsense, specially when you know that I've travelled 10k blocks. You're abusing your privileges.

IceAgeComing should just kill Niebieski with his sword for coming to his territory, that would be fair and square.

[Niebieski]

(Edit: iska was faster than me, but it took a lot of time to write this, so i will still post it.)

i doubt that you randomly travelled 10k blocks and ended up there by chance.
i remember that ice wrote multiple warnings, it should have been visible.

ice cannot use worldedit to cover everything with a huge wall.
the problem is not the protection, but the privacy.
people use locked doors so that others can't enter their houses.
this city is like ice's house, so it's not open for public.

it happens often that people break into other peoples houses by abusing the glitch bug or teleporting into locked rooms.
if that happens, they are teleported to spawn.
you have been warned not to enter the house, you still did enter, you were teleported.

it also has happened a lot that people build on the spawn waters or other restricted areas.
the building rules are clearly displayed, the buildings get removed.
people complain about being griefed. more than half of this forum thread is about cases like that.

read signs, read the chat. use F10 if you missed something.
everything is there and there is always enough time to talk about everything, but usually people ignore signs and messages, so actions must be taken.

-I didn't even reach anything someone said that I was NEAR the castle and then teleported to /spawn.
-It wasn't by chance I honestly followed their names, I was curious what are they doing. but I didn't thought of being something called "private area" to exist. and still they don't have the right to teleport people for such a reason.
-I didn't get into a house I didn't get into protected land! what are you talking about ?

[Niebieski]

Hey!

I dont usually answer to posts like these, just throwing in my 0.02 eur...

I dont think there are any rule that say if someone is allowed building something in their privacy, but common sense tells me that biggest contributors and productive builders in the server deserve that right.

After all its 60000x60000x60000 block world in our use. (216000000000000 blocks).

I think this topic shouldn't continue.

Cheers, iska - the noob president

So simply "builders" are contributers ? and should have advantages over "non-builders".
is that fair ?

[Pawl]

Niebieski czy jestes z mojego kraju?

[Neon]

So simply "builders" are contributers ? and should have advantages over "non-builders".
is that fair ?

Put simply, Yes.
Some of use have been with the server for most of the server's lifetime, seen whole maps get washed away with a single reset, built beautiful things many times over, and still contribute with building infrastructure, free places to live and mine, and shops to share the hard-to-get things we have found. What have you done?
Shouldn't those people be given some sort of deference because of their long-standing contributions? What have you contributed to the server?
There is almost always someone on the server who is willing to help you find someplace to build, help you find the things you need, and answer every little question that pops into the head of a new member to the community. Who have you helped?

So tell me again why should we continue to give into your (very public) temper tantrum?

[firefox]

i agree with neon.
yes, it is easier to build when you can teleport and fly, but the people that have those powers don't build like others do.
they use their abilities to build awesome places that look like they were build in creative mode, but they weren't.
they gathered all the materials by themselves or bought them from shops (which can cost a lot if you buy 1000 or more).
furthermore all their buildings are public places like roads, mines, shops, banks, ect.
none of their buildings are locked private homes, like most players build them.

back to topic:

News from Utgard

the next area has been prepared for clearing.
i have removed the pre-constructed platforms, because they were part of the old idea and didn't fit with the new plan.

the plan is the following:
- Utgard is a mining town
- the Underworld Mine will have many entrances in the cave walls
- the town buildings will be build on the lava lake and connected with roads and bridges
- the town buildings must be either very decorative and/or have an economic function (shops and inns)

current member list: (based on what i remember, i will update the list after checking the protectors entry)
- Phiwari123
- iska
- Rayxe
- JustForToday
- HOTgamergirl

each one of us can make 1 mine entrance. it must have a fancy entrace/gate and a tunnel that leads away from the cave and then splits up into 1 or more mineshafts.
the entrance and main tunnel must be protected and you have to place some signs with the mining rules somewhere. you can also include monster arenas into the tunnels.

buildings that we need are:
- Underworld Hotel (an inn with beds and maybe coffee and cake shops)
- Underworld Armory (equipment shop: swords and armor)
- Underworld Farm/Resturant (food shop that sells mushroom stew and other food)
- Underworld Bank (like the bank in Louieville)
- Underworld Library (sells books about mining and other things) -> i will build that

the rest of Utgard can be build with decorative buildings like a church and a court house or whatever you have in mind.
the building style must be antique or medieval and the colors and materials should fit. (the blue frost wood doesn't look good in the lava lake)

*end of Utgard news*


i have a feeling that my shops have less customers than other shops, because they don't look like shops.
so here is a list of my stores and their products:

Sol Sanctum - near Louieville at the Stone Stargate (blue teleporter)
sells colored wool (red, orange, yellow, cyan, blue, purple), terracotta, sandstone bricks, fire places, staff of light, glostone, candles, clay blocks, snow blocks, crystal spikes, fish, lava orbs, teleport potions.

Shrine of the Sea God - in the Noob Area (orange teleporter)
sells fishing rods, worms (bait for fishing), corals, seaweed, seastone, roasted fish, sushi

all my prices are on the same level as in me2's popular green warp store.
Sol Sanctum uses gold lumps and diamonds and mese for lava orbs and teleport potions.
the Shrine of the Sea God uses iron and copper lumps.

[Bonny]

Server has been down since few hours..is everything ok?

[neozerosv]

Server has been down since few hours..is everything ok?

I dont know, but i guess it has something to do with the continuous crashes.

[firefox]

yesterday i was disconnected 3 times with an ERROR message that the server had internal causalities or something.
probably the installed minetest version or one of the mods is bugged and crashes the minetest program on the server.

[neozerosv]

yesterday i was disconnected 3 times with an ERROR message that the server had internal causalities or something.
probably the installed minetest version or one of the mods is bugged and crashes the minetest program on the server.

Yep, i got those errors too like four times.

[Xanthin]

yesterday i was disconnected 3 times with an ERROR message that the server had internal causalities or something.
probably the installed minetest version or one of the mods is bugged and crashes the minetest program on the server.

I think the error messages you got (I also got them with changing reasons) belongs to this appreciated commit in the mt build the server runs.

According to what I remember Ten said two days ago (and my friend also got this on his game), a memory leak in minetest is the culprit that has to be fixed.

In this actual situation where the server crashes several times quick in a row its probably a good decision to shut it down until the situation got fixed - and we all can go back then to the usual workflow. :)

[TenPlus1]

Xanadu is back up and running once more...

[myster]

Thank you TenPlus1 and Shinji_Ikari, the admins, for getting and keeping this server up and running.

[maikerumine]

Ten, what build are you using for the server?