taikedz wrote:I'm fine with the look of trees as they are. If you consider what happens when you add the homedecor modpack, you get comparitively high-detail items amongst high-pixelation items..... it doesn't make sense.
I won't go over all the replies.
To make it clear, I think MT is awesome. There really is nothing quite like it, (yes, I mean even MC)
And actually, I even just tinkered around with terasology earlier this evening for the first time and... even though it is still extremely in it's infancy.... I am not "blown away" by it at all. I don't want to trash talk it but, just not impressed... I think all the vids, and screenies I've seen for it must have something I do not because I definitely did not get the same visual those show.
But, moving onto our discussion.
As stated, I love MT. I think it's great.
And there are so many reasons it is unique... The community is the biggest piece.
Then add in the fact there is so much one can do with it... going into various areas whether working on mods (both creative and for in-game) (I am solely a creative user)
Oddly enough atm, I actually find it hard to think of where to begin regarding how many different things MT can be for any one user. (I'm tired) :P
Since I first installed MT I began messing with textures, then mods, etc.., I've made obj models for trees, d/l some from free modeling sites, even tinkered with cg-decor mod's idea for trees as well as the Epic demo....
Some seemed really awesome at first... then the attraction wore off and I go back to the default style of trees... then nodeboxtrees came along (which I really like)... and just recently I have been messing with different ways to add some diff styles of branches to see how it looks..., making trees taller, different ways to apply the leaves.
But After all I have done with trees... I have been happy with the square trunks now.
Sometimes, it takes trial and error... and a whole lot of wasted time :P to realize what was there, was already... "perfect"... but then that bug still bites... so you begin to experiment from a totally different perspective.
^ and
that right there is yet another perfect example of why MT is so awesome : D
Reflective water??? well.... a
lot of users want that, actually... but... time will tell. Honestly, I think it won't be too much longer before someone comes along and gives us all something awesome related to that. (fingers crossed)
And, I'm perfectly happy with my fps 98% of the time.... except when I go flying around with max view on so I can load as much of the map as I can to view simply because I like to.
It's sort of a relief therapy to be able to view the "perfect" little world I have created for myself by literally chopping MT up into bits :P, it takes me away from the stresses of the real world for a while and actually produces a calming effect...
As far as I know 30-40 fps is the most common (and should be fine). The only time I tend to get extremely slightly annoyed is when I encounter stuttering... at which point I go in and change my settings from mapgen 31,000 to about 2,000 and view from 400 to 200 :P stuff like that.
I think most people really wish to run at 100fps with the whole chabang turned on and up to max... and often new comers tend to be annoyed by this... often coming from MC (which I cannot understand as MC tends to lag at full throttle as well)
And just tonight in terasology... with all turned down or off, I ran about 11-12 fps o_0
I think some people get uptight when someone creates a mod which they feel does not fit into MT but, tend to lose sight of the fact that... if they don't like it, just don;t use it... it really is that simple.
No one is ever going to be able to please everyone in the MT world... and no one should even try nor ever expect to.
the "perfect" MT comes down to individual tastes... and that is what is so great... so many people with individual tastes... creating stuff some will like, some won't but... if you don't, just wait... eventually someone will come along and create something you do like or.... try to create it for yourself... there are always plenty of others with similar tastes who may even offer to help in many ways.
But we often see here, those who come from MC... and are expecting a completely free (as in free buffalo wings) version of MC, and become instantly disenchanted and even irate it is not.
And then I have even seen a couple actually become almost demanding or highly critical.
Some here, work and plug away to make MT as MC-ish as they possibly can... and that's ok too... Who's to say it's not?
I do tend to see a lot of MC hang-up here though... but not being an actual "gamer" I'm not able to identify with that. I do know that I have watch my kid play MC and I actually do not see what exactly makes it
so much greater than MT?
When I consider the $$$ which has gone into MC dev, and how much it costs to purchase... in my view... MT has it whipped... and continues to grow and expand.
Although I have to say... I do believe at some time... (not in the near future) things may stagnate... and someone is going to need to start plucking away with Irrlicht, itself (I'm not saying no one does but... it will be required on a larger scale)
I don't know if any code has been pushed upstream to Irrlicht from the development of the MT engine so... But I imagine eventually... it will happen or will
need to happen.
Anyway, hope I didn't get my earlier (very long post) (followed by yet another very long post) put across the wrong way
For me... I simply keep plugging away at pulling parts of MT I do not use out..., tinkering with various aspects, and playing with mapgen... creating my very own "perfect Minetest" and along the way, if I create something I think other's might like... I just share it.
But I also try to follow What's going on in the areas I don't use (such as gaming aspects) to see if something might catch my interest, or get some ideas, or... what ever... I also follow items about what some people don't like or issues they have etc...
Minetest definitely has a diverse community/audience... here... just imagine how many more different visions out there who don't visit the forums?? : o
I think this community is really something.
Sure there is bickering here and there, and there were a couple I followed here before I really started posting etc... whom I really thought it would be nice to "meet" (via here) and ask questions and learn some things and sadly they were gone before I actually got the chance, and it's weird but, you get this feeling of loss, for someone you never even met or got to interact with, just based on some work they did here or something....
So... I go on like this looking at the title... "How Minetest actually works" well....,
this is how it actually works.... It's all the code..., the hard work of others..., the fact it was created by someone who shared it and now is probably stunned by how it has grown so much since... the community... the creativity and imagination of others... people who think nothing of offering to help other people to work stuff out, etc....
Just a lot of give and take... a lot of talent and skill... and a lot of fun.
I think if someone wants something which is not yet available... they should either try to do it themselves, or ask very politely for others to do it (if it interests them enough) or nag till it happens :D (that last one doesn't work so well)
But I get slightly annoyed sometimes when I see someone start actually become negatively critical if something does not work to their liking or to how MC does this and that....
I think this stems from my deep dislike of Microsoft and the fact they now own "Minecraft". This, in my mind, turned MC into the "windows" of the gaming world :P
I always felt the windows theme should be "the Imperial March" from the original Star Wars movie... :?|
Flick?... Flick who?