/oredetect help
bigfoot547 wrote:Did you get inspiration from my csm-inspect client mod?
Wuzzy wrote:/oredetect help
Wait, what? No, no, no!!!
Please don't tell me that client-sided chat commands also start with a forward slash, making them look identical to server-sided commands. WHYYYYY?
DS-minetest wrote:bigfoot547 wrote:Did you get inspiration from my csm-inspect client mod?
Yes I did, it was useful.
I hope it's not a problem that I took CC0. If it is please tell me and I'll change the license and write that it was inspirited by your mod. I thought, it differs enough (and didn't look at your license >_<)
ExeterDad wrote:So will server owners be able to prevent this mod from use on their server?
red-001 wrote:No
Wuzzy wrote:And I think the X-ray cheat will be the least of our worries. I'm worried that it will also be used to implement all other kinds of client-sided cheats. Like displaying the minimap, even if the server disabled it, and tons of other information the player is normally not supposed to see. Not that it wasn't possible before. But now it's officially supported. This is a gigantic red flag.
Wuzzy wrote:[CSM] would be potentionally a serious blow against Minetest multiplayer, because cheating is becoming very convenient.
Wuzzy wrote:Yes, this is INDEED the dawn of X-ray cheat and it is not only non-preventable but also undetectable. Plus, it is freaking officially supported by Minetest! WTF?
And I think the X-ray cheat will be the least of our worries. I'm worried that it will also be used to implement all other kinds of client-sided cheats. Like displaying the minimap, even if the server disabled it, and tons of other information the player is normally not supposed to see. Not that it wasn't possible before. But now it's officially supported. This is a gigantic red flag.
sofar wrote:Wuzzy wrote:Yes, this is INDEED the dawn of X-ray cheat and it is not only non-preventable but also undetectable. Plus, it is freaking officially supported by Minetest! WTF? [[...]]
There are many, many ways to protect against these type of issues. But minetest_game doesn't implement them.
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Wait, WHAT? Hahahahaha. OMFG. Like, seriously.
Yes, this is INDEED the dawn of X-ray cheat and it is not only non-preventable but also undetectable. Plus, it is freaking officially supported by Minetest! WTF?
rnd wrote:But its not really a big deal cause there are no real survival servers anyway.
Linuxdirk wrote:rnd wrote:But its not really a big deal cause there are no real survival servers anyway.
I wonder if privilege escalation (or circumvention) is possible. Griefers then could plaster a server's spawn with giant cobblestone phalli.
red-001 wrote:I mean if a server owner doesn't bother to install a protection mod then yes. but that has nothing to do with CSM.
Linuxdirk wrote:So all server owners worldwide have to install 3rd party protection mods because MT devs do not care about protecting the modding API against cheating?
Linuxdirk wrote:red-001 wrote:I mean if a server owner doesn't bother to install a protection mod then yes. but that has nothing to do with CSM.
So all server owners worldwide have to install 3rd party protection mods because MT devs do not care about protecting the modding API against cheating?
So ... yeah ...
red-001 wrote:I would have though three years would be enough to realize that you need to install a mod to protect your server against greifing.
red-001 wrote:Anyway since you don't like the way CSM is being developed how about you propose a solution instead of just complaining about it?
rubenwardy wrote:The benefits of csm outweigh the disadvantages of it.
DS-minetest wrote:@Linuxdirk: Don't forget that all devs are contributing voluntarily to minetest.
Linuxdirk wrote:red-001 wrote:I would have though three years would be enough to realize that you need to install a mod to protect your server against greifing.
So you tell me that default permissions missing "interact" privilege are a mod and not an integrated option?
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