VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
InfinityProject wrote:Actually, the nyan cat has been a community favorite for a long time. It fills me and many others with joy to find one. People have started teams on servers to find them and its brought up much discussion. I think the nyan is just a fun and creative aspect of minetest! It's also original to the point that I have never seen another sandbox game with the nyan cat in it (doesn't mean there isn't one).
Sunstone, what the heck would that be?
Fossilised skeletons... Sorry, but not as cool as rainbow pooping cats :)
10twenty4 wrote:InfinityProject wrote:Actually, the nyan cat has been a community favorite for a long time. It fills me and many others with joy to find one. People have started teams on servers to find them and its brought up much discussion. I think the nyan is just a fun and creative aspect of minetest! It's also original to the point that I have never seen another sandbox game with the nyan cat in it (doesn't mean there isn't one).
Sunstone, what the heck would that be?
Fossilised skeletons... Sorry, but not as cool as rainbow pooping cats :)
The nyancat is neither creative nor original. The meme has existed for years, and has nothing to do with Minetest. The fact that Minetest is the only sandbox game to have it is not a plus.
What I'm saying is that if nyancat is a "fixture" of the community, then we should replace it with a fixture which is unique and an original creation of Minetest, not an internet meme.
0gb.us wrote:VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
kaeza wrote:0gb.us wrote:VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.
To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
0gb.us wrote:kaeza wrote:0gb.us wrote:
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.
To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
the texture is still in default/textures also mese exists but has a new look. The only thing changed was the look to make it fit with crystals. I checked github and found out that the original texture was removed pilzadam please add it back to legacy. Since iron apples aren't in legacy code. But mess is apart of Minetest HISTORY!0gb.us wrote:kaeza wrote:0gb.us wrote:
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Fun fact: MESE blocks are still in game; they just spawn lower (to make them harder to find). You can also craft a block out of 9 crystals.
To the OP, nyancats are a kind of treasure, and as said by InfinityProject, it brings joy to the player who finds them. If you don't like it, edit *YOUR* copy to remove them and/or create a mod to add your sunblock/fossils.
Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
kaeza wrote:add your sunblock/fossils
jojoa1997 wrote:the texture is still in default/textures also mese exists but has a new look. The only thing changed was the look to make it fit with crystals. I checked github and found out that the original texture was removed pilzadam please add it back to legacy. Since iron apples aren't in legacy code. But mess is apart of Minetest HISTORY!
0gb.us wrote:Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
ds-2k wrote:0gb.us wrote:Fun fact: they don't have the original mese image, and without the test image, they are just another node. Mese was only special because it was an artefact left over from testing. Mese is no longer a leftover test object. While this may be seen as good or bad (I will remain neutral on this subject), the fact is, the mese that was a fixture of Minetest no longer exists.
If you use the "Minimal development test" game, mese has its original texture (and lava is also renewable). You also get some mese in your initial inventory.
VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
0gb.us wrote:VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
10twenty4 wrote:I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.
Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
-fossilized skeletons
12Me21 wrote:9 mese crystals cannot be crafted back into a mese block
Mihobre wrote:0gb.us wrote:VanessaE wrote:NO! Keep the nyan cat. It's as much a fixture of Minetest as mese blocks are.
And yet mese blocks (or at least the version of them that were a fixture of Minetest) were removed. Mese was just a test block, and with that taken away, mese now means very little to the game, and is no longer a tribute to its history. Without the original mese image, it's just another node.
Not that I have a preference about cats (or mese), I just have a tendency to point out flawed logic.
Nu-uhh! Mese is very very VERY VERY IMPORTANT. It creates the sturdiest tool in the default mod, it is used by other mods as form of craft item for items that are magical and other things similar! So, who cares if you hate nyan cat and mese being in Minetest. Maybe you only use iron pickaxes because you hate mese and punch nyan cats with swords because you hate them! And they hate you too! :P
12Me21 wrote:- Old mese blocks can still be found deep underground
- You can just change the texture of mese back to the old one
- I think there is a mod to get the old mese back
- 9 mese crystals cannot be crafted back into a mese block
- It doesn't matter if nyan cat is useless (it's not) because why would you just remove it for no reason?
- if you don't like nyan cat just go around the map and find all of them and kill them
Mihobre wrote:10twenty4 wrote:I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.
Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
-fossilized skeletons
Who cares if they are useless!?! Oh yeah, you and you only.
12Me21 wrote:I thought that the crystals could not be crafted back into a block, but anyway, the new mese blocks and the old ones are mostly the same, except for the crystals and the texture.
so we should get rid of something just cause it is famous10twenty4 wrote:Mihobre wrote:10twenty4 wrote:I propose the nyan cat block be either removed from the default mod, or renamed and retextured. The existence of this internet meme ingame dates Minetest considerably (nyan cat hasn't been relevant for several years). Although the original is somewhat humorous, placing it in the default game shows a marked lack of originality and is little more than pandering to the internet crowd. Such pandering isn't in itself bad, but only when it's done in a subtle manner. Having an entire block dedicated to a meme is not subtle.
Some possible replacements for the nyan cat:
-sunstone
-fossilized skeletons
Who cares if they are useless!?! Oh yeah, you and you only.
I don't care that the nyan cat is useless, what I dislike is that it's an internet meme.
But clearly there's a lot of opposition to the idea, and by default they're rare enough that it doesn't bother me overly much, so whatevs.
i say add it back in legacy as a texture and also add the code to legacy also0gb.us wrote:12Me21 wrote:I thought that the crystals could not be crafted back into a block, but anyway, the new mese blocks and the old ones are mostly the same, except for the crystals and the texture.
It's the texture that made it the old test block that is, err, was, a part of Minetest history.
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